Go on the record - Who is your starting QB?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Kolbsy let Reid off the hook BIG TIME today.  Now he can nonchalantly start Vick after the bye as if he never considered going back to Kolb, which is obviously a total lie.  He can hope Vick wins a few games and drives up his value so that trading his franchise rights will be enough to warrant doing so and going back to Kolb in 2011.

[ice grillin you]

Kolbsy let Reid off the hook BIG TIME today.  Now he can nonchalantly start Vick after the bye as if he never considered going back to Kolb, which is obviously a total lie.  He can hope Vick wins a few games and drives up his value so that trading his franchise rights will be enough to warrant doing so and going back to Kolb in 2011.

id say jorrick randall calvin let andy off the hook....if he doesnt fumble cobb has a chance to be the hero and make andys life miserable this week

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Yeah, but the way that was going, I don't see Kolb getting it done.

I think the loss was squarely on the offensive line and the defensive backfield.  Kolb was good enough to win but barely.  Calvin's and other mistakes (like all the 3rd down penalties on D) would not have been a big deal if the OL and DB's were getting the job done.  But this is for another thread.

Bottom line: VICK is the starter against Indy.

EDIT: Link included, because Andy said so.

[The BIGSTUD]

The Colts defense sucks. Assuming Vick is in good playing condition I bet you he cuts up the Colts and I think it could be a long awaited W against that team.

[ice grillin you]

yeah by no means was the loss anywhere close to being on cobb...but he wasnt that good and left numerous plays out on the field....the obvious one being the hideous celek overthrow....that one really hurt

basically he did nothing to prevent vick from starting next week

[Munson]

I think Vick will have a good game but it's hard to imagine a guy coming off a 4 week hiatus because of injury coming in and out-dueling the GOAT QB.


Andy Reid's undefeated after the bye week streak is probably about to be done.

[The BIGSTUD]

Vick came off basically a 2 year hiatus and dominated in his first significant in-game action back against GB.

[Munson]

That's why i said he'd have a good game, but it's hard to see him beating Peyton Manning in a shoot out

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

But the Eagles D is....  HahahahaaAaaaa, no.

[shorebird]

Starting Vick makes no sense. Who starts at qb is not the friggen' problem with this team. Vick might win one, two more games with his legs while Kolb sits on the bench and we are left to wonder, again, who will be the qb next year. Johnny Unitas could start for this team and they'd lose to the Colts. You have to let Kolb play. He didn't look good yesterday, but that could have been the product of the rest of the team looking like crap, especially the oline and d. Why do people want to axe him after one mediocre performance? He has to start if we are ever gonna' know if he can really play. If he sucks, the you draft another qb this year and hopefully if he's gonna' suck it's bad enough that the Eagles end up picking in the top ten.

Don't fall into the 'Win Now' mode. With this D and oline, Eagles go nowere even if they get lucky enough to get in the tourney. Starting Vick does nothing to help the future of this team.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Starting Vick makes no sense.

Don't fall into the 'Win Now' mode.

So you readily admit that starting Vick gives the team a better chance to win but still think it makes no sense.  You're neat.

Look, I get the whole rebuilding argument and all, but the division, conference, and whole league are way too wide open to pack it in and expect to lose.  Kolb needs to work on his pocket presence and watch more film of QB's who do it well.  He DOES HAVE A STRONG ARM but when he's constantly throwing off his back foot into a stiff wind, he's going to have to get lucky to complete passes (like he did on the Cooper bomb).  It is encouraging that he can pick apart a defense when the OL holds up but downright pathetic to watch him when the pressure comes.

[Diomedes]

The trade deadline being past without Vick going away makes this question more of a sticky wicket.  So does the fact that the division and conference are so apparently weak.  (The AFC is much more solid as a whole than the NFC and I don't see the Eagles doing much against the Ravens or Steelers or Patriots or Chargers, etc.)

But the fact is, Vick is not the future.  Kolb has to play to develop.  He's gone as far as he can riding the bench and eating up film. 

If I were coach, Kolb would start.

[Magical_Retard]

I guess it all boils down to if the coaches think they can build around Vick, meaning if he can be the future. So to them its also important to see Vick play out the season, see if his transformation both on and off the field is real, and if they more confident with him leading the team.

All other discussion falls under who you are rooting for. Let just hope Reid gets this one right cause otherwise its failure at QB, drafting a QB, and then another 50/50 shot of that working out.

[shorebird]

Starting Vick makes no sense.

Don't fall into the 'Win Now' mode.

So you readily admit that starting Vick gives the team a better chance to win but still think it makes no sense.  You're neat.

Again, if you're looking towards the future of this team, startng Vick makes no sense!!

You think it gives them a better chance to win, well...win what?!? What exactly do you think they'll win, one, two more games at the most? Playoffs, Superbowl?? Are you guys that friggen' desperate to win now that you're talking about building around Mike Vick!?!?

C'MON!!

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

It only makes no sense if you're damn sure that Kolb has a higher ceiling than Vick.  The team is young, yes, but offensive skill players (especially RB's) lose a step after ~5 years, so that's really the window with this current group.  If the team thinks that Vick gives them a better chance for a parade than Kolb does over that time frame, how is that so unbelievable?