2010 Sixers Offseason Thread

[smeags]

deflection is cool.

carry on boys.

[ice grillin you]

from the inky today...

The No. 2 pick, however, is a little trickier. "Especially if it's Evan Turner," said former Sixer Jim Jackson, an Ohio State and NBA star and now an analyst for the Big Ten Network. "If you look at Turner's growth from where he started as a freshman to how he's evolved now, it's been great. His versatility is his asset. There ain't too many guys who can do all the things he can do."

But . . .

"His size, his work ethic, his knowledge of the game are all his strengths," Jackson continued. "He's a lot like Joe Johnson in that all those things can make him an all-star, because he just knows how to play. But [Turner] is not seen as a tremendous athlete, and a lot of his success came from him having the ball in his hands. So what it really may come down to with him is what system he's playing in, and whether that system works for him."

Did anyone get that?

Turner didn't lead the Buckeyes last season in every statistical category that matters - points (20.4), rebounds (9.2), and assists (6.0) - because he's some high-wire act comparable to Scottie Pippen or, more accurately, a silky-smooth guard like Brandon Roy. Turner excelled because the ball was in his hands, because coach Thad Matta put him at point guard. If he didn't have to run off screens to get the ball at Ohio State, what makes anyone think he'll be interested in doing so for Andre Iguodala and Jrue Holiday? Or, worse, Lou Williams, who may never want to pass him the ball?

"That's a pretty darn good question," said one team executive with a lottery pick Tuesday. "It's definitely one I'd be asking myself if I were the Sixers."

Scouts would not disagree.

Three of them gave analyses of what they thought of Turner's game, and the reports were practically identical.

They were impressed with Turner's averaging 20.1 points, 8.3 rebounds, and 5.9 assists against Big Ten competition last season, especially after he missed six games and overcame two fractured bones in his lower back. But the two triple-doubles he recorded meant little to the scouts because they were against Alcorn State and Lipscomb.

The scouts focused on Turner's impressive midrange shooting. His good hands. His craftiness and his basketball IQ. The problem is NBA teams also focused on his lack of speed and athleticism, along with questions about his long-range shooting. His struggling defense struggles because of suspect lateral movement is also a minus, particularly for someone considered an NBA 2-guard.

"Ask anyone and they'll tell you Turner is the No. 2 pick," one scout for a lottery team told me. "All-around, he's the second-best player in the draft. But Wesley Johnson is a better athlete, defender, and shooter. He actually might be a better pick if it were not for questions about his man-to-man defense, since Syracuse plays that matchup 2-3 zone all the time.

"Derrick Favors could be a star power forward in this league. And you don't teach the agility and size DeMarcus Cousins has on him, although there are questions about his discipline for playing hard all 82 games. The Sixers are in a very interesting position."

[Drunkmasterflex]

That is one of the few negative things I have seen about Turner, though that wasn't really that negative.  I wouldn't be disappointed with Johnson or Cousins.

I just think Turner is a Grant Hill (pre-injuries) type player, he doesn't necessarily wow you with one aspect of his game yet he just keeps getting the job done. 

[ice grillin you]

its hard to really say much negative about turner....especially when his floor is so high...his negative is that he probably wont ever be a great player

even when talking about his negatives...can he take people off the dribble in the league can he shoot well enough at the two...you are talking about them in terms of them preventing him from being an all star not causing him to be a bust...at his worst he will be a really nice bench player for a long time

[MDS]

lol a nice bench player

this coming from the guy who was hoping for a rainout in a world series game so he could watch this pos teams home opener

you suck at EVERYTHING

[ice grillin you]

and you have become an insufferable homer

when someone says the WORST a player can be is a really good bench player and you get offended its time to turn in your fan card

[MDS]

no YOU are in the insufferable sixers homer and here you are before evan turner steps foot on an nba court, talking about hows he gonna come off the bench

thats the funny part

you are this guy

i dont care....i will still love them forever

godfather
brusier brand
dre dog
sweet lou
ill will
the kid


ITS ON!!

[Sgt PSN]

its hard to really say much negative about turner.......his negative is that he probably wont ever be a great player

 

especially when his floor is so high

[ice grillin you]

its hard to really say much negative about turner.......his negative is that he probably wont ever be a great player

when a player who is picked that high cant be great i perceive that as a negative

especially when his floor is so high

high floor = the worst he can be is still a solid player

no YOU are in the insufferable sixers homer and here you are before evan turner steps foot on an nba court, talking about hows he gonna come off the bench

thats the funny part

you are this guy

i dont care....i will still love them forever

godfather
brusier brand
dre dog
sweet lou
ill will
the kid


ITS ON!!

i will always love the sixers no matter what...but that doesnt effect the way i evaluate one of their draft picks

[MDS]

your 'evaluations' historically have been worse than chris wheelers announcing

stick to making fun of munson and talking about the wire, cutie pie

[ice grillin you]

first you tried to say i was saying that turner will be a bench player...which you realized was 100% wrong

then you tried to say because i like the sixers it is impossible for me to not love their draft pick...which you realized is 100% ludicrous

after after you realized both of these things made you look silly you go on the attack.....in short...you are a clown on a cole type level

[MDS]

it was never an attack, dumby

you were hating to hate which is astounding considering your unmatched level of  homer man love for the sixers

thats all it ever was, and like always, you take anyone remotely questioning your evaluation skills as an immediate threat and go on the offensive with borderline insensitive comparisons to cole. even though hes actually gotten a lot better.

[ice grillin you]

questioning my eval skills is fine and fair and about the 10th on the list of things youve gotten wrong in the past three posts

should have just started and ended with that

[MDS]

im pretty the only thing "wrong" with the last handful posts is that they happened

[Sgt PSN]

I hope this lovers spat the 2 of you are having right now goes the way of Ike and Tina.