Can We All Finally Agree Donovan Needs To Burn In Hell (even you phreak)

Started by ice grillin you, January 09, 2010, 11:07:24 PM

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PoopyfaceMcGee

But McNabb would be just fine under that scenario, right?  He still has incredible mobility and a limited injury history, right?

charlie

Quote from: FastFreddie on March 30, 2010, 03:52:22 PM
But McNabb would be just fine under that scenario, right?  He still has incredible mobility and a limited injury history, right?

Quarterbacks are not equipped to drop back 40-45 times per game, even though pretty much all of them do.

ice grillin you

in andy reids tenure the eagles have averaged 12th in pass attempts per season

and has had seasons where they ranked 25th - 19th - 18th - 30th and 10th

and only twice have they been top five

i dont think hes throwing 40+ times to often
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Seabiscuit36

Quote from: charlie on March 30, 2010, 03:57:37 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 30, 2010, 03:52:22 PM
But McNabb would be just fine under that scenario, right?  He still has incredible mobility and a limited injury history, right?

Quarterbacks are not equipped to drop back 40-45 times per game, even though pretty much all of them do.
you love throwing random #'s out there dont you silly goose


Andy only throws 40+ times when its windy, its the mad Genius that he is.  No one would ever think they would throw in high winds..BRILLIANT
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ice grillin you

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 30, 2010, 04:08:52 PM
Quote from: charlie on March 30, 2010, 03:57:37 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 30, 2010, 03:52:22 PM
But McNabb would be just fine under that scenario, right?  He still has incredible mobility and a limited injury history, right?

Quarterbacks are not equipped to drop back 40-45 times per game, even though pretty much all of them do.
you love throwing random #'s out there dont you silly goose

i think hes trying to be cute by counting hand offs as dropping back
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

charlie

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 30, 2010, 04:08:52 PM
Quote from: charlie on March 30, 2010, 03:57:37 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 30, 2010, 03:52:22 PM
But McNabb would be just fine under that scenario, right?  He still has incredible mobility and a limited injury history, right?

Quarterbacks are not equipped to drop back 40-45 times per game, even though pretty much all of them do.
you love throwing random #'s out there dont you silly goose

What's random about it? I took those number from a post on the previous page.


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Sgt PSN

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 30, 2010, 04:08:46 PM
in andy reids tenure the eagles have averaged 12th in pass attempts per season

and has had seasons where they ranked 25th - 19th - 18th - 30th and 10th

and only twice have they been top five

i dont think hes throwing 40+ times to often

i knew the perception was slightly off on how much reid throws, but i didn't think there was any way he was outside of the top 10.  then again, i suppose that perennial losers like detroit, cleveland and buffalo are almost always playing from behind and are forced to abandon the run early is what helps push reid down in the rankings. 

i'm curious as to where reid ranks among coaches with winning records in the last 10 years. 

still, i never really had a problem with him wanting to throw the ball....especially now that he's got legit receivers all over the field.  it's his situational playcalling that drives me nuts....like throwing on 3rd and 1.  it's the predictability of his playcalling that's infuriating.  because if a bunch of idiot fans like us can pick up on his tendencies, then you can damn well be sure that professional coaches aren't going to have a hard time figuring it out either. 

rjs246

Those numbers are misleading. Reid is the only coach in history with 60%+ passing plays called over the length of his career. To try to argue that he doesn't pass that much is stupid.

What we should all agree to is that passing a lot is not going to change. What needs to change is the personnel. We used to bitch about the WRs being the problem but after 10 years it's pretty clear that McNabb will never be accurate enough to complete a high enough % of passes to run an offense that's this heavy on the pass. So that's it. The problem isn't the system. The problem isn't the personnel. The problem is that the system doesn't match the personnel.

So please stfu.

BTW: Reid obviously passes too much for my liking, but that's because I don't like the system. I just prefer smashmouth football. There isn't anything inherently wrong with passing the ball. There's just something inherently wrong with asking McNabb to complete 20+ timing passes per game.
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Quote from: ice grillin you on March 30, 2010, 04:08:46 PM
in andy reids tenure the eagles have averaged 12th in pass attempts per season

and has had seasons where they ranked 25th - 19th - 18th - 30th and 10th

and only twice have they been top five

i dont think hes throwing 40+ times to often

That is a little misleading though, this team is always at the top when it comes to percentage of run vs. pass.  The reason the attempts is probably not as high is because even when the offense is good it still gets a fair amount of 3 and outs. 

Not to mention teams have had success over the years running on Philly's defense, which of course is part of another problem this team always seems to have TOP. 
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Quote from: rjs246 on March 30, 2010, 04:35:26 PM
Those numbers are misleading. Reid is the only coach in history with 60%+ passing plays called over the length of his career.  The problem is that the system doesn't match the personnel.


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Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

Sgt PSN

just out of curiosity, are those pass vs run numbers just taken from box scores or something?  because if that's the case, then it's going to include every mcnabb scramble over the last 11 years as a run instead of a pass, which would seriously drive down the pass plays called per game. 

rjs246

Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 30, 2010, 04:44:11 PM
just out of curiosity, are those pass vs run numbers just taken from box scores or something?  because if that's the case, then it's going to include every mcnabb scramble over the last 11 years as a run instead of a pass, which would seriously drive down the pass plays called per game. 

Meh, who cares. So he calls 61.5% pass plays instead of 60.2%. The point is still the same, butthole.
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Let them eat bootstraps.


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