Can We All Finally Agree Donovan Needs To Burn In Hell (even you phreak)

Started by ice grillin you, January 09, 2010, 11:07:24 PM

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DH

Why does anyone care about the money? There's no cap, remember?

reese125

which means there is no salary floor

aside from maybe 2 teams in the free agency periood, teams are not in the mode of a spending spree...especially with the uncertainty of 2011 and the new CBA

and if Im not mistaken ( I have to double-check), teams dont have the ability to roll over their extra cap space from the previous season

smeags

Quote from: Die-Hard on March 26, 2010, 09:32:34 AM
Why does anyone care about the money? There's no cap, remember?

because the eagles pay by value. no way they are going to pay a cornerback QB money. besides that clause doesn't kick in until after 2010. he gets $14mil something next season.

rjs - you think there would be a restructure with the impending CBA negiciatiopns/possible strike ? something tells me the NFLPA would put a quick end to that.
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Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

rjs246

I do think that there would be no trade without a restructure. But I also don't really care.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

DH


PhillyPhanInDC

More from McLane:

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Vikings tops on McNabb's trade wish list
By Jeff McLane
Inquirer Staff Writer

If Donovan McNabb had his say, and he may very well have it, he would prefer to be traded to Minnesota.

After Andy Reid announced Wednesday that the Eagles were "entertaining offers" for all three of their quarterbacks, McNabb reiterated that he wants to remain in Philadelphia. But if the team were to ship its franchise quarterback elsewhere, the Vikings would be his first choice, according to sources close to the situation.

There are obstacles to this even remotely happening.

For one, the Vikings technically already have a starting quarterback in Brett Favre, and indications are that the 40-year-old is coming back for another season.

And even if Favre were to retire, a decision on his replacement isn't likely to be made until training camp - and the Eagles probably can't wait that long.

So in the meantime, the Eagles will solicit offers from other teams, most of whom McNabb has no desire to play for.

Citing a source, the Associated Press reported last night that in a trade for McNabb, the Eagles would not accept anything less than a top-42 pick in this year's draft.

Although he cannot veto a trade per se - there isn't a no-trade clause in his contract - he can refuse to negotiate a contract extension, and most teams wouldn't trade away draft picks or players unless they had McNabb locked up long-term.


McNabb, likewise, would want an extension. He is in the last year on his contract. But the 11-year veteran has reservations about playing for a losing team years from contending for a championship, according to the sources.

McNabb, who remains at his home in Arizona, is not talking about this matter. On Wednesday, however, he released a statement saying that he hoped "whichever direction the Eagles decide to go in, they do it quickly."

The Eagles and Rams had discussions, according to league sources, possibly involving St. Louis' second-round pick in exchange for McNabb. But those talks apparently have lost momentum for the time being. The Eagles had no comment and the Rams have issued a flat denial.

Oakland and Buffalo have inquired about McNabb, according to a Yahoo! Sports report. Reid said that he has received inquiries from teams not only about McNabb, but also about backup Kevin Kolb and third-stringer Michael Vick.

McNabb, though, appears to be the most likely to be dealt. If a deal were to be made, there is a large incentive to do it soon, considering that the college draft is fast approaching and McNabb is due a $6.2 million roster bonus on May 5.

Here's a look at the Eagles' most likely trade partners and whether McNabb might be willing to couple up with one those teams:

Vikings. Minnesota's recent success, its West Coast offense and the fact that McNabb once played under coach Brad Childress are all reasons why it would be the perfect match. Any discussion about a deal would be premature with Favre still in the picture.

49ers. San Francisco coach Mike Singletary has given Alex Smith the nod at quarterback, but that didn't stop the 49ers from acquiring David Carr, who previously backed up Eli Manning with the Giants. Neither quarterback could be labeled a winner.

McNabb would be open to a move to San Francisco, one source said. The 49ers, coming off an 8-8 season, do have two first-round draft picks (Nos. 13 and 16) and could use one to get him. But McNabb is unfamiliar with the 49ers' offense.

Panthers. When they released Jake Delhomme earlier this month, the Panthers seemingly had an opening at QB. But the team immediately promoted Matt Moore as the starter. That doesn't mean they aren't interested in McNabb. Carolina, though, doesn't have a first-round draft pick and may need as much to barter with the Birds.

St. Louis. The Rams probably won't make any final decisions about quarterback until they watch Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford work out on Monday. They hold the No. 1 overall pick in the draft and are believed to be interested in the former Heisman Trophy winner. If they aren't sold on Bradford they may look to McNabb.

McNabb hasn't completely ruled out the Rams, according to a source. But even the presence of his former quarterbacks coach, Pat Shumur, might not be enough to offset the fact that St. Louis is coming off a 1-15 season.

Bills. Buffalo coach Chan Gailey said at the owners' meetings that he was open to adding another quarterback, even though he already had three: Trent Edwards, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Brian Brohm. McNabb, however, does not want to play for the Bills. The only way a deal could work would be if Buffalo was willing to take McNabb without an extension and a loyal Reid was willing to send his first draft pick to a dilapidated franchise.

Raiders. Coach Tom Cable said that JaMarcus Russell and Bruce Gradkowski would compete for the quarterback job. He didn't rule out a trade, but he's not the boss. Owner Al Davis is. He traded for Richard Seymour last year without giving him an extension. McNabb does not want to play for the Raiders and would Reid be that cruel?

There were several teams that could have been trade partners with the Eagles, but each one has apparently taken itself out of the bidding with off-season acquisitions. Cleveland signed Delhomme, Seattle brought in Charlie Whitehurst, and Arizona, which already has Matt Leinert, inked Derek Anderson to a contract.

Jacksonville, Washington and Denver are teams with shaky quarterbacks, but have the support of their coaches at least for now.

All things being equal, however, McNabb would rather be in Philadelphia.

"My position hasn't changed," McNabb wrote on his blog. "I've said all along that I would like to win a Super Bowl and finish my career in Philadelphia."
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.""  R.I.P George.

smeags

Quote from: Die-Hard on March 26, 2010, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: smeags on March 26, 2010, 09:52:59 AM
no way they are going to pay a cornerback QB money.  

#22 says hi.

$9mil is a far cry from the $14mil plus possible add' $4.7mil in incentives they'd have to pay this year and at least $16plus next or average of the top 5 qb's if greater.

but in reality it's a pointless debate because it isn't going to happen.
If guns kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnel a fatass.

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

PoopyfaceMcGee

Hi, I'm new here.  Are we talking about trading our franchise quarterback and a playmaking Pro Bowl corner for a younger, playmaking Pro Bowl corner?  That sounds neat.

reese125

Quotebut in reality it's a pointless debate because it isn't going to happen.

and not to mention the deal is horrendous

smeags

If guns kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnel a fatass.

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

Seabiscuit36

Quote from: FastFreddie on March 26, 2010, 10:18:34 AM
Hi, I'm new here.  Are we talking about trading our franchise quarterback and a playmaking Pro Bowl corner for a younger, playmaking Pro Bowl corner?  That sounds neat.
who are you again? 

I like the trade, just get crazy al to throw in some picks
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

PoopyfaceMcGee

Let's not talk about my thrilling personal life.  I would more like to figure out what the hell is going on with the Eagles.

Also, will PG sell me her season tickets if Kolb is the new starter?  I need answers.

smeags

dammit fred i need answers on the vehicle.  ;)

seriously though, i don't see this deal coming true, not how it stands right now anyway and that's assuming there's actually even been any real talk on it.
If guns kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnel a fatass.

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

reese125

I just think its really cool that the Eagles higher-ups told the associated press that they want a top 42 pick for Mcnabb or the deal is off the table

rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.