Can We All Finally Agree Donovan Needs To Burn In Hell (even you phreak)

[Don Ho]

Cunningham pretty much takes up most of my first memories of the Eagles.

Dam you guys are young.  My earliest memories are Pete Liske and John Reaves in 1972.  Now that was just god awful football.  Only good thing was Harold Carmichael, Ben Hawkins and Bill Bradley.  The arrival of Roman Gabriel was the biggest thing until Owens got here.

[Munson]

Cunningham pretty much takes up most of my first memories of the Eagles.

Dam you guys are young.  My earliest memories are Pete Liske and John Reaves in 1972.  Now that was just god awful football.  Only good thing was Harold Carmichael, Ben Hawkins and Bill Bradley.  The arrival of Roman Gabriel was the biggest thing until Owens got here.

I remember Cunningham the most, and remember the defense a little bit. My first vivid memories are 2 bad ones: Reggie leaving because God told him to, and Rich Kotite telling us the playsheet got water on it.

[MDS]

this is exactly what i need, a stroll down munson memory lane. fascinating.

[Munson]

You could just not read it or better yet kill yourself.

[Reidme]

this is exactly what i need, a stroll down munson memory lane. fascinating.

I think it all ties in, Gabriel, Cunningham, and McNabb ..... munsoned again. Loved Randall, was ok with McNabb, but a decade is long enough. Next ..... i cannot get excited about another year with DMac no matter how competent he is.

[PhillyGirl]

But you can get excited about Kevin Kolb.

Y'all crack me up.

[MDS]

no ones "excited" about kolb, but theres no reason to believe hes going to be bobby hoying.

in his 2.5 games has he been awful? no. has he been magnificent? no. we dont know what he is yet.

i keep forgetting that youre a professional scout with a keen eye for talent. youve studied his games at houston, hours of training camp footage, the preseason games, you seem know everything about football. which is nice. i envy that. congrats.

[Sgt PSN]

the funny thing is that over the last 2 years, most of the training camp reports i've seen on kolb have been bad.  but in his 2 starts this year and even in the 2nd half against b-more last year, he did show some good qualities. 

he seemed to go through his reads fairly well. 

has good pocket presence. 

gets rid of the ball quickly. 

of course, he has locked onto a receiver a few times which has led to picks.  he's also panicked in the pocket when the defense brings pressure.  so does every young qb.  hell, mcnabb still looks scurred sometimes when the defense blitzes. 

i don't know if kolb is going to be good, bad, great or average.  no one really does.  however i will say that what i've seen out of him in games is encouraging.  am i excited about the thought of him being the starter?  no.  mcnabb has been a damn good qb for this team for the last 10 years and kolb is not going to step in and instantly duplicate that.  however, i think mcnabb's run in philly is done.

einstein said it best "insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."  reid+mcnabb = close but no cigar.  that's been proven over the last decade.  so the only way to reasonably expect a different result next year and beyond is to change one of the variables.  either reid or mcnabb.  and we know reid ain't going anywhere.

will reid + kolb = super bowl?  who knows.  whatever the outcome is, it's almost certain to be different than what we're getting with the current formula.   

[MDS]

lol @ training camp reports

oooo les bowen and rich hoffman say he sucks. they are so smart they must be right

[Drunkmasterflex]

PG I don't now that anybody is excited with the prospect of Kolb as the starter.  We are just sick of McNabb. 

[Munson]

I'm sick of McNabb dropping back 40 times a game. I'd love to see him drop back 25-30 times a game like the other QB's winning in the playoffs have done.

[NC_Eagle]

2009 NFL Free Agents
Top Quarterbacks:
Kyle Orton, Denver Broncos (27)
Jason Campbell, Washington taterskins (28)
Chad Pennington, Miami Dolphins (34)
Tarvaris Jackson, Minnesota Vikings (27)
Kellen Clemens, New York Jets (27)
Other Notable Free Agents:
Charlie Batch, Pittsburgh Steelers (35)
Kyle Boller, St. Louis Rams (29)
David Carr, New York Giants (31)
Brodie Croyle, Kansas City Chiefs (27)
Daunte Culpepper, Detroit Lions (33)
Rex Grossman, Houston Texans (30)
Joey Harrington, New Orleans Saints (31)
Jon Kitna, Dallas Cowboys (37)
Matt Moore, Carolina Panthers (26) – Restricted FA
Chris Redman, Atlanta Falcons (33)
Brett Ratliff, Cleveland Browns (25) – Exclusive Rights FA
Troy Smith, Baltimore Ravens (26) – Restricted FA

[MDS]

useless list

the only way this team does anything next year is if kolb is good. if kolb sucks it doesnt matter if they have chad pennington or me back there, they'll be a 6-10 team.

[hbionic]

This team is a perennial piece of shtein. It shows no signs of being otherwise.

I won't start mildly giving a farg until maybe the draft. Even then I don't know who they players are that they draft. Wait...I'll give a little farg during Free Agency...and then...the morning of kickoff 2010.

Otherwise...farg this team until September.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Sarge,

One thing Kolb does not do that you mentioned was get rid of the ball quickly. He holds that damn thing forever. That can be changed with experience of knowing where to go with the ball and reading defenses, but he certainly does not have a quick release now.