Jeremiah Trotter, Philadelphia Eagle (Take Three)

[Tomahawk]

hes 32 going on 48 and tomahak said has played in forever...two years is an eternity in the nfl at that age

and you can have total farging recall but how are you going to get your body to do the things you havent forgotten

Well, consider the source...the guy says he feels better. He worked out twice and passed their guidelines.

Do you think they'd sign him if they felt he couldn't play?

If so, what (in your mind) is the motivation to do this?

They signed Vick and he can't play. They kept Reggie Brown and he can't play. For years, they kept people like Mahe, Greg Lewis, and Freddie Mitchell and none of them can play. No, I don't believe they would have signed him if they didn't think he could play. The problem is they think people can ball that obviously can't

[ice grillin you]

Do you think they'd sign him if they felt he couldn't play?

yes

If so, what (in your mind) is the motivation to do this?

no idea but im guessing familiarity....or they wanna look like geniuses


what was the reason for running matt mccoy out there for all those games...what was the reason for running joe mays out there earlier this year...or levon kirkland in 2002...blaine bishop....sean considine....there is a litany of players they have put on the field knowing they couldnt play

But give credit for Reid for making the move now. He sees a need and addresses it with Trotter, who may or may not work out, but at least give him a shot to see if he can improve the defense.

why would i give reid credit if im supposed to wait to see if it works....ill be the first to admit that i was wrong but ill be flabbergasted if this improves the defense....hell ill give andy credit if this doesnt lose them any games

[Drunkmasterflex]

Honestly I can't see him being anything more than a situational player at this point. 

[ice grillin you]

Honestly I can't see him being anything more than a situational player at this point. 

hopefully he sees little of the field and this is mostly a lockerroom/leadership move....im down with that aspect of it

[SunMo]

yeah, but you can't just walk off the street and be a leader.  half the guys on the defense weren't even there when he played last

[PhillyPhreak54]

hes 32 going on 48 and tomahak said has played in forever...two years is an eternity in the nfl at that age

and you can have total farging recall but how are you going to get your body to do the things you havent forgotten

Well, consider the source...the guy says he feels better. He worked out twice and passed their guidelines.

Do you think they'd sign him if they felt he couldn't play?

If so, what (in your mind) is the motivation to do this?

They signed Vick and he can't play. They kept Reggie Brown and he can't play. For years, they kept people like Mahe, Greg Lewis, and Freddie Mitchell and none of them can play. No, I don't believe they would have signed him if they didn't think he could play. The problem is they think people can ball that obviously can't

I disagree on Lewis, because he was good in his role. As a UDFA he contributed as a spot receiver and solid STs guy. When they elevated him to starter after TO got the boot, he sucked. But he was good otherwise.

Vick - I think the jury is still out on him. I wasn't happy with it originally, but I think that he will end up helping them win a game or two.

I think Brown can still play, but he needs to adjust his attitude and practice habits. He performed when he had the opportunity. But the only reason he's still here is that contract.

Mahe = inexcusable
Freddie Mitchell = dumb draft decision

[reese125]

the insane part is not so much signing the guy but the fact that he has been removed from football that long and still impressed at 2 workouts to even get signed.

I mean christ-runyan comes back for a workout and nathan

he must of showed something of value but we shall see

[Tomahawk]

Exactly SunMo, if they just want leadership, they should have kept Dawkins  At least he isn't some couch potato trying to relive his glory days

[PhillyPhreak54]

no idea but im guessing familiarity....or they wanna look like geniuses


what was the reason for running matt mccoy out there for all those games...what was the reason for running joe mays out there earlier this year...or levon kirkland in 2002...blaine bishop....sean considine....there is a litany of players they have put on the field knowing they couldnt play

But why sign him? The reason is they identified the MLB position as a weakness right now. They couldn't have planned better unless they could have predicted Bradley going down with the injury and knowing that Mays wasn't ready (or never will be ready)

They had to run Mays out there to give him a shot and see if he could do it. He obviously can't so they have to fix the position.

McCoy was run out there because he was a prized 2nd round pick. They were going to sink or swim. And I'm still convinced that those iceholes meant to write KIRK MORRISON on that draft card and got 'em mixed up.

Levon Kirkland/Barry Gardner = Reid & Banner's ego. After letting Trot walk the first time, they thought Barry farging Gardner (another #2) could run it. He sucked and they were stuck. It was between Hardy Nickerson and Kirkland at that time.

Bishop = stupid. And leaving him in that game was on Johnson.

Considine = another dumb decision. No defending them there.

But they have made good calls too. I'm not going to tote the line on every player to wear green. They have made a lot of zesty decisions and deserved to be ripped like hell for them.

why would i give reid credit if im supposed to wait to see if it works....ill be the first to admit that i was wrong but ill be flabbergasted if this improves the defense....hell ill give andy credit if this doesnt lose them any games

I'd give him credit for not staying put on what they have at MLB right now and identifying it as a weakness.

[ice grillin you]

yeah, but you can't just walk off the street and be a leader.  half the guys on the defense weren't even there when he played last

most people i would agree...but trotter is a born leader...and a vocal one...even more so than dawk...plus hes a well known incredibly respected philadephia eagle who obviously has the backing of big red who absolutely loves him...i have no doubt he will get all up in someone like gaither or gocong and they will take heed...not saying it will help but that aspect cannot hurt....the problem will lie in if he is like willie mays on the mets when he gets on the field...if he cant at least play a little then he wont garner the respect he normally would...thats a much bigger concern than the coming in off the street part IMO


hell kevin kolb is crediting ike reese with his current transformation into respectable player

I'd give him credit for not staying put on what they have at MLB right now and identifying it as a weakness.

then again you give andy reid credit for his car turning over every morning

[Eagaholic]

Garcia released so Trotter could be signed

[PhillyPhreak54]

most people i would agree...but trotter is a born leader...and a vocal one...even more so than dawk...plus hes a well known incredibly respected philadephia eagle who obviously has the backing of big red who absolutely loves him...i have no doubt he will get all up in someone like gaither or gocong and they will take heed...not saying it will help but that aspect cannot hurt....the problem will lie in if he is like willie mays on the mets when he gets on the field...if he cant at least play a little then he wont garner the respect he normally would...thats a much bigger concern than the coming in off the street part IMO


hell kevin kolb is crediting ike reese with his current transformation into respectable player

Agreed on the leadership thing. I think it gets overhyped sometimes, but in certain cases it holds true. This is one of them. Trotter is respected by the veterans on the team, by the coaches and he would not hesitate to get up in someone's face.

Say what about Kolb? Where'd ya hear that? Very interesting stuff

[ice grillin you]

eskin: i dont know if youve heard but the eagles just signed jeremiah trotter....what do you think

phil martelli: what they sign him for....a fantasy camp?

[PhillyPhreak54]

eskin: i dont know if youve heard but the eagles just signed jeremiah trotter....what do you think

phil martelli: what they sign him for....a fantasy camp?

lol at Martelli's opinion on the Eagles.

Same with Specter on the morning show

[ice grillin you]

Say what about Kolb? Where'd ya hear that? Very interesting stuff

check the wip website...theres a podcast of an interview he did on the eskin show yesterday and he talks about ike there