Eagles/Chiefs Talk

[General_Failure]

I'm starting to wonder.....what if Kolb is that good? I am starting to worry he may be good enough to earn the faith, only to go all Bobby Hoying. I would have been much more comfortable if he just outright sucked.

The Eagles might beat the Rams! I mean the Bucs! I mean the Panthers! I mean the Pats! I mean the Cardinals!

Jesus Christ man, what team have you been watching all your life? Stop believing these suckers are any good until they really prove it.

[shorebird]

The only way this team ever proves anything will be by winning the Superbowl.

[General_Failure]

And until then, we can safely assume they never will.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Great game by Shady, Kolb, Pimp & Celek.

The OL was very good as well.

If Andy MUST throw the ball from the shotgun on 4th and 1 can he NOT roll the QB to the right to take half the field away and limit the options?

[PhillyGirl]

Kolb had some good passes but his receivers gave him all of those yards. Especially Pimp.

Healso had a shteinload of passed batted down and almost got 3 of his guys' heads taken off with errant passes. He played the farging Chefs. He's not a legitimate starting QB against a somewhat decent defense and I have zero confidence that he can do something with the game on the line.

The Kolb lovefest is really starting to make my stomach turn.  The fact that people are calling on him to start over McNabb makes me want to puke.

[Sgt PSN]

the only thing i feel good about with kolb is that should mcnabb get hurt during a game, i think kolb can come in and not totally suck.  let's be honest, in the preseason if someone told you that kolb would start 2 games this year, you'd mark them both down as losses and would think he'd throw 5 picks, complete less than 50% of his passes and maybe throw for 250 total yards.  he's still not starter material for the eagles, or any other team but perhaps he'll make a nice career for himself mostly as a backup qb.....kind of like trent dilfer. 

[The BIGSTUD]

He's better than Romo and Jason Campbell.

[Sgt PSN]

they aren't starter material either. 

[PhillyPhanInDC]

The Kolb lovefest is really starting to make my stomach turn.  The fact that people are calling on him to start over McNabb makes me want to puke.

Are there really people starting to say that? If they are, they aren't here.

Jackson on Jackson:

Jackson to Jackson: Stop the nonsense
Jamaal Jackson loved DeSean Jackson's 64-yard touchdown reception during the second quarter of the Eagles' 34-14 rout of the Kansas City Chiefs.

He didn't like the head-first-dive-into-a-front-split celebration so much.

"I told him, 'Great run, but let's try to exhibit some professionalism,' " the Eagles' center said. "There's nothing wrong with a little celebration, but once you put your body at risk, that's when you want to take a step back and look at the big picture. There's nothing wrong with just handing the ball to the ref."

Jamaal thinks DeSean might heed his advice, especially because the receiving Jackson also vomitted on the sideline after his celebration.

"I've been trying to talk to these young guys," Jamaal said. "I tell them, 'Hey man, this is our jobs. It isn't some pickup game. I told him that right after he scored. After that, he was on the sideline throwing up. You run that long of a time, you need to save some of your energy. He was hurling. I might seem like the old guy out there, but my position on this team is to try to lead these guys by example."

Eagles coach Andy Reid didn't make a big deal about the celebration, saying simply that it was a good indication to him that Jackson's strained groin was feeling OK.

[The BIGSTUD]

they aren't starter material either. 

True, but that is exactly my point. What defines a starter in the NFL? If half the NFL has garbage starting QBs, then isn't Kolb a starting QB in this league?

[QB Eagles]

I think Kolb's a lot like Cassel. Last year when Cassel had weapons, he was a pretty good quarterback. Now he's got no weapons and he's horrible. Put Kolb on the Chiefs and he'd probably look like Cassel yesterday.

There are a lot of starting quarterbacks who get by on having talent around them for their entire careers, though. So while I don't think Kolb is any McNabb, I also think it's somewhat ridiculous to continue to bitch about him when he's the first quarterback in the entire history of the NFL to throw for over 300 yards in his first two starts. There are likely quite a few worse QBs starting in the NFL right now.

[Diomedes]

Jamaal just vaulted into top five favorite current Eagles.

[shorebird]

Kolb is servicable, and suprised a few people with a couple of games that were better than anyone would have thought they'd be. Me, with the weapons this offense seems to have right now? I can't wait to see McNabb start in two weeks. No way in hell would anyone with half a brain call for Kolb  to start over McNabb. Kolb was decent, but he still doesn't have half the arm strength, experiance, or overall ability that McNabb has, at least when healthy.

[mussa]

Once again Reid in the 2nd half decides to pass the ball and continue to pass when they have a comfortable lead. Meanwhile the just as retarded Chiefs were running the ball all day even when down! The game was so half ass backwards. Kolb did well, but man oh man, the Chiefs are BAD. They might be the worst team in the NFL right now(right there with the Skins  ) Kolb has proven to me so far that he can have a ok game against an okay defense in the Saints. He can do above average against a really bad defense in the Chiefs. Kolb has 2 starts and has proved NOTHING. If anything its good to see the guy with his head up and looking to have some confidence in him. We're going to need him playing his best at this point. Vick is far from contributing. We might not see anything special from him til the end of the season I am afraid.

DeSean Jackson - 3 games deep this kid is always in the endzone. i love him. no wildcat looks for him though this week. which I am fine with if he's alittle hurt, but the wildcat seems to work better when he's involved. i agree with jamaal jackson though on the celebration. we need him healthy.

McCoy - Looked down right nasty early. I was really hoping they'd give him the ball all day. Still 20 for 84 yrds and a TD ain't bad for his first start. Hell any Eagles RB near 100 yards is good. Great draft pick

Celek - This guy is Mr. Reliable and Mr. Hard-to-bring-Down! Yes, he awkward, and yes he's white. Yes he gave a horrible first down signal 2 yards shy of the 1st and yes his Eagles wing celebration after his TD was kinda whack, but those things don't matter to me. Like it or not he is turning into a star on this offense and if he keeps getting the ball thrown his way, might deserve a shot at the pro bowl(laugh). the kid makes catches and finds yards after the catch. i havn't been watching his blocking?

Gaither - Had a solid game. 7 tackles and a sack

Killa Cole - 6 tackles and a .5 sack

When they went for it on 4th and short, that was just a horrible call. 4 passes and out. Chiefs scored right after. Horrible. The other thing that drove me crazy all day, other than passing when way up was the Wildcat. Almost every time they brought Vick in, they handed the ball off. I think he attempted 2 passes out of 11 plays. Come on Reid, your not fooling anyone. Mix it the farg up or don't even put him out there! It was so predictable. You knew they were going to run the ball when in that formation. The formation is all about fooling you opponent. Another look into the mastermind that is Reid. Scary.

Good week to rest up. Looking forward to a beat down on the Bucs!

[PhillyPhanInDC]

Meanwhile the just as retarded Chiefs were running the ball all day even when down! T

Supposedly they gave up because the Eagles defense was the shtein. Really???

Eagles' defense was so good Chiefs stopped passing

By MARCUS HAYES
Philadelphia Daily News

hayesm@phillynews.com

AT ONE POINT, it got so bad the Chiefs just ran it.

Down by 17 points with 30 minutes to play to a team it showed no hint of being able to stop, the Chiefs chose to not pass the football. They kept the ball on the ground. This served a dual purpose.

One, it kept Matt Cassel, the team's top offseason acquisition, out of harm's way. Cassel was sacked three times and pounded about a dozen others by a voracious defense that led the Eagles to a 34-14 win.

Two, it...well, actually, there was only one logical explanation.

"If you're back there, dropping back every play, and our front four know it's a pass, it's lights out," said free safety Quintin Mikell. "You don't want to get your quarterback injured."

Carting Cassel off the field seemed inevitable if the Chiefs kept chucking it. This was nothing like the defense stung into passivity by the visiting Saints last week. That defense shouldered the blame for the 48-22 loss.

By halftime, this week's version of the Eagles' defense had those three sacks, had limited starting running back Larry Johnson to 3 yards on seven carries, had forced five punts, had allowed 75 total yards and had allowed zero third-down conversions in four such situations. (It would shut the Chiefs out on third down; 0-for-11.)

"It was good to see the defense come out and play exceptionally well," Eagles coach Andy Reid said. "They were flying around, and I thought the third-down defense was exceptional."

So, even facing eight or nine players at the line of scrimmage, the Chiefs ran, and ran, and ran in the second half.

Down by about three touchdowns most of the time.

They ran 20 times. For 71 yards.

Cassel passed it eight times, completing seven of them, for 40 yards.

New Chiefs coach Todd Haley didn't say he feared for Cassel's health, exactly.

"I think, to be the team we want to be, we are going to have to be able to run the ball even when they have too many up there," said Haley, who admitted Johnson's 3 yards of rushing offense in the first half helped spur his play-calling in the second half. "We are trying to establish an identity here."

And, perhaps, trying to convince Cassel not to change his, for safety's sake.

"Honestly, I was surprised a little bit," middle linebacker Omar Gaither said. "They ran the ball much more than I thought they would, with the score being what it was."

True, the Chiefs missed wideouts Dwayne Bowe and Quinten Lawrence but, when you need to score and when you can't stop them from scoring, you'd think, maybe...

"I don't know what the motive was behind that," said defensive end Darren Howard. "I know they were down two of their receivers, who didn't dress this week. We knew they were going to come in and run the ball, but to that extent? We were kind of taken by surprise. I've never seen that before. We were up by that much going into the second half and they don't try to throw the ball downfield?

"You want to pin your ears back and get to the quarterback. We thought, all the way until the end of the game, they would start passing the ball eventually."

They thought wrong.