The Defense

Started by PhillyPhreak54, August 20, 2009, 11:13:00 PM

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ice grillin you

Quote from: TexasEagle on December 29, 2010, 02:20:19 AM
His schemes are bad for the teams/ offenses he faces. He has no idea how to adjust and when he does it's too late. The blitzes are ultra transparent (giving the line & qb time to pick them up and hit hot reads or shift protection). He keeps the corners playing 5-10 yards off the receivers almost the entire game (still don't understand that). He doesn't double up the problematic WRs enough if at all...

Honestly, he's just not very good right now. He lucked into the job in the worst possible way and he's being exposed on a regular basis. I've literally lost count of the length of the field scoring drives the other teams have gotten this year. The Red Zone D doesn't even exist. It's like once the other team passes mid-field McDermott has no idea what to do scheme wise and goes into a coaching shell.

his blitz packages are almost identical to jim johnsons....i disagree about the corners...they play press coverage a decent amount of the time...i think you may be sullied by patterson last week against the giants

everything else you mention is a result of having horrible players

really i dont even wanna argue this because mcdermott might be an atrocious dc....im just of the opinion that buddy ryan couldnt get these guys to stop anyone...thats how bad they are
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TexasEagle

Oh yeah, no doubt there's a serious dearth of talent on the Defensive side of the ball. It's only gotten worse with all of the injuries. But every team has injuries. The main issue I've seen all year is the schemes don't mesh with who they're playing. There's way too many drive down the field and score possessions by opposing teams. And they actually don't play a lot of press coverage. They're usually 5-10 yards back and backpeddling at the snap. Even on short down and distances. It's kind of annoying to watch actually.

shorebird

Isn't this some were around the 4th time in the last 5 games that Samuel has been flagged for a helmet to helmet hit? When is the NFL gonna' start suspending players? They get all up in the air saying that fines will be followed by suspensions and then do nothing. They want 18 games but say they want to protect the players. Hypocrites worried about the God almighty dollar bill and thats it.

mussa

I am so sick of McDermont. Did we even interview any other D coordinators after JJ passed? This guy is a joke.
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ice grillin you

Quote from: mussa on December 29, 2010, 02:27:24 PM
I am so sick of McDermont. Did we even interview any other D coordinators after JJ passed? This guy is a joke.

buddy ryan couldnt get this defense to play...its filled with a bunch of late round picks and udfa's
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Don Ho

Yes every aspect of this defense is a joke right now with the exception of Samuel and killa, but with all the injuries and patchwork lineup the greatest defensive mind couldn't fix this.
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Feva

Quote from: ice grillin you on December 29, 2010, 02:30:49 PM
Quote from: mussa on December 29, 2010, 02:27:24 PM
I am so sick of McDermont. Did we even interview any other D coordinators after JJ passed? This guy is a joke.

buddy ryan couldnt get this defense to play...its filled with a bunch of late round picks and udfa's

It is really amazing just how bland this defense is. Not a real "athlete" or playmaker anywhere other than Killa and Samuel. Just a bunch of guys who need to play their absolute best every freaking week just to avoid embarassment and becoming a complete and total liability.

I think all the time that as zesty as this defense has been... how much worse it would be if they hadn't found Killa (in the 5th round). He's the only guy aong the line that even seems interested in rushing the passer.
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ice grillin you

Quote from: EagleFeva on December 29, 2010, 02:57:05 PM

Just a bunch of guys who need to play their absolute best every freaking week just to avoid embarassment and becoming a complete and total liability.

this pretty much sums it up...my favorite thing is when a guy like dixon unseats bunkley its seen as a good thing and people are like what a find this kid dixon is...when in reality he only looks good because bunkley is so average...and i cringe when i see people like juqua parker have a 6-8 sack season...all it does is give coaches and fans a false sense of security and a reason not to look at a certain spot as an upgrade need
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SD

They did try to upgrade Parker by drafting Graham and I'm pretty sure they were #2 on Peppers wish list if he didn't sigh with the Bears.

They need a new defensive philosophy. I know Reid was blown away by JJ when he was a coordinator and that's why he hired him. But he knew how to scheme to maximize his personnel regardless of how poor they were. Mcdermott adds wrinkles to a D that has no base. Stop with the quick hands get rid of blockers defensive lineman mentality and get a physical specimen who is a beast. Same with their LBs, stop getting these small quick guys who can't shed blocks, get big physical guys with athletic ability. Also, have they ever had a 'project' defensive guy whose worked out? I'm sick of them getting guys like McCoy/Gocong/Teo and acting like they got some sort of steal.

ice grillin you

they drafted graham because parkers old not because hes average...hes been on the team forever
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

rjs246

For all the yawns Parker inspires, he is consistently productive. The D-Line isn't the problem to me, or not the biggest problem anyway. LB, S and CB all blow.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

PoopyfaceMcGee

You're forgetting about Dimitri Patterson.

rjs246

He's the second best CB in the league, obviously.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

ice grillin you

Quote from: rjs246 on December 29, 2010, 03:52:00 PM
For all the yawns Parker inspires, he is consistently productive.

he doesnt disrupt at all...in his eight years or whatever i cant really remember him getting the edge on a OT...or causing a fumble...his sacks are all coverage or hustle sacks...and usually in between his sacks hes completely invisible...he has value but he should not be starting for this length time for anyone if at all
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SD

Quote from: rjs246 on December 29, 2010, 03:52:00 PM
For all the yawns Parker inspires, he is consistently productive. The D-Line isn't the problem to me, or not the biggest problem anyway. LB, S and CB all blow.

My list in order:

Cornerback
Tall rangy DE who can rush the passer and play the run
Strong Safety
LBs
All around depth