Brandon Gibson, Philadelphia Eagle

Started by Feva, April 26, 2009, 04:54:41 PM

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Feva

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Feva

Apparently this kid can never make it out of the trainer's room.  Looooooooooooooong injury history.
"Now I'm completing up the other half of that triangle" - Emmitt Smith on joining Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin in the Hall of Fame

"If you have sex with a prostitute against her will, is that considered rape or shoplifting?" -- 2 Live Stews

Drunkmasterflex

Quote from: EagleFeva on April 26, 2009, 04:59:01 PM
Apparently this kid can never make it out of the trainer's room.  Looooooooooooooong injury history.

he must of been out at least a few times he set a bunch of records. 
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His list of accomplishments is long and distinguished.

Yeah, so is my johnson.

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MadMarchHare

Are you guys really getting bent, because a late 6th rounder looks like ass?  Christ.  Wait'll the 7th rounders.
Anyone but Reid.

PoopyfaceMcGee

So, I'm hearing some of the pundits talk this guy up.  Why?

Seabiscuit36

http://www.wsufootballblog.com/2009/01/did-brandon-gibson-miss-nfl-gravy-train.html
QuoteDid Brandon Gibson Miss the NFL Gravy Train?
As Art Thiel of the now-dying Seattle P-I surmised recently, "Hindsight is always perfect, and speculation is always easy." While I am not so sure about speculation being easy, I agree on the hindsight part. Almost anyone can look at something that has happened, then gone back in their minds to declare "Yeah, you know I should have done THAT a little differently." We all do it - big and small, young and old, and we do it almost every day.

So, naturally it's human nature to look at Brandon Gibson's senior year and wonder - did he make the right decision? Could Gibson have blown his shot at big NFL money? Or, did a less-than-stellar senior year not really impact his 2009 NFL draft standing??



Now we have news that Gibson will head to the Senior Bowl. This is an excellent chance for him to show his abilities in front of NFL coaches and executives who will closely scrutinize every prospect on both rosters. Per the article:

The Senior Bowl is perhaps college football's premier pre-draft event, annually featuring the nation's best senior football stars and top NFL draft prospects on teams coached by NFL coaching staffs. Senior Bowl practices and weekly festivities are attended by more than 800 general managers, head coaches, assistant coaches, scouts and other front-office personnel from all 32 NFL teams.
Other than the combine, there won't be a better shot to show what he can do, against other hungry, prospective draft picks.

But to look forward, we must look back. First of all, let's look at Gibson's 2007 season.

Catches: 67
Yards: 1180
Average: 17.6 per catch
TD: 9
Yards per game: 107.3

Add in that he was first-team All-Pac-10 while leading the conference in yards per game, and finishing #2 to Arizona's Mike Thomas in TD's and catches per game.

Pretty impressive. Even while sharing the stage with a 70-catch WR in Michael Bumpus, and a 50+ catch tight end in Jed Collins, Gibson was still the brightest star. Now obviously it helped things having the guy throwing you the ball as an experienced, smart, senior QB who was breaking a lot of school records in the process. But Gibson was as good as any WR on the west coast in 2007.

As everyone knows, Gibson flirted with the NFL evaluation committee after that breakout '07 season, but based on the feedback, it wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement for his NFL stock. While the exact round has never been revealed, we have heard it was anywhere between a late 3rd-round pick to a late 5th rounder, likely dependent on the progress of his individual workouts in pre-draft situations.

Now, a lot of us wouldn't scoff at being a mid-round NFL draft choice. You get a contract, you get a signing bonus of some kind, but to go a step further? Unlike undrafted free agents, as a draft pick you get every opportunity to make an NFL club! Today's GM's go to great lengths to get value from their picks. If that means the player makes the club and is inactive, whether they are on the practice squad, or even if the GM trades them to another club for future considerations, they will do everything they can to get value. And Brandon Gibson would have had value in the league this year.

The other side to it is what are the immediate needs of the player? Are they in serious financial straits, where they must leap for whatever money they can get at the time? Or maybe they are an uninterested member of the student body who is counting down the days to get the hell outta Pullman. In either case, if the player is going to be drafted, then it makes sense to go for it, even if you are a second-rounder or a second day NFL draft choice.

But as we know, Gibson came back. We hailed it as a big "get" for Paul Wulff, maybe his biggest recruit of his first season.

But then 2008 happened:

Catches: 57 (in 13 games, two more than 2007)
Yards: 673
Average: 11.8 per catch
TD: 2
Yards per game: 51.8

Not as impressive is it? Well, OK, it IS impressive to an extent. Especially when you consider the woeful QB and offensive line situations that completely hammered the progress and ideals of what the offense COULD have been in '08. Heck, it got so bad the team had to reduce the offensive playbook by more than 50%. But it's not hard to argue that Gibson's 2008 was night and day different compared to 2007, and it's not even close.

All that said, one might assume Gibson's NFL draft stock is in some serious trouble. Believe it or not, he's hanging in there.

DraftCountdown.com: Mid-round pick. Gibson clocks in at 6-1, 202, running a 4.55 40-time. Strengths include decent height and bulk, good route runner, excellent hands, technically sound. Weaknesses are a lack of great speed or quickness and lacking a real burst who doesn't get a lot of separation. Lacks a huge amount of upside.

NFLDraftScout.com: They seem to like him here, projected as a possible 3rd or 4th round pick.

ConsensusDraftServices.com: They like him less than NFL draft scout, and project him as a 5th rounder.

FFToolbox.com: They still like him too. While not projected to go in the first two rounds, they do have him at #99 in their top-100 prospects. That's good for a 3rd round pick or maybe early 4th.

But again, you can't base EVERYTHING on his senior year. NFL execs will look at the full body of work, but, the workouts and interviews will matter much, much more.

"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

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Quote from: Zanshin on April 28, 2009, 08:44:58 AM
Sounds sort of like another Avant.

Exactly what I was thinking. Do not need.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

ice grillin you

gibson is more athletic than avant and has some yack ability

avant is run one yard further than the first down marker turnaround catch ball fall down

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igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous