Sheldon Brown wants to be traded

Started by SD_Eagle5, April 20, 2009, 01:49:51 PM

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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 28, 2009, 03:08:33 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 28, 2009, 03:04:56 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on April 28, 2009, 12:26:58 PM
C'mon, you guys are too hard on AR. Pound for pound he is one of the best coaches in the league.

This gem shouldn't go ignored.

yes it should because it was a fat joke that didn't make sense.  pound for pound analogies are usually best applied to smaller people and almost always applied to people who are excellent at what they do.  

reid is neither small nor excellent at what he does.

pound for pound, he's the most stubborn and arrogant coach in the nfl.  now that makes sense.  

If you don't see how it makes sense, you're dense.  How poetic is that?

Kenzinger

Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 28, 2009, 03:04:52 PM
Quote from: Kenzinger on April 28, 2009, 02:44:28 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 28, 2009, 02:34:49 PM
Quote from: Kenzinger on April 28, 2009, 02:28:33 PM
Pay Sheldon more for one year. The Eagles get his services for another Super Bowl run, minus the grumbling and locker room bullshtein. Sheldon gets more money upfront and the guarantee they're going to release or trade him at the end of the year. Seems like a win-win to me.


good in theory, bad in reality.  we're talking about the eagles here.  jeff lurie and joe banner in particular.  and neither of them really care about making a super bowl run.  they want a team that's good enough to fight for a spot in the playoffs.  that's it.  anything they get beyond that is gravy as far as they are concerned.  and by gravy, i mean cake.  and by cake i mean cash money.  

They just gave Jason Peters a 4-year, $53 million extension that made him the highest paid LT in football. Last year they signed the premier free agent Asante Samuel to a 6-year deal worth around $57 million with $20 million guaranteed.

I don't think the Eagles are cheap. I think they have a very rigid philosophy on where they spend their money and they don't overpay for big names just to appease the fans.

i never said they didn't sign players to big deals.  but they have a bottom line and they won't do anything to jeopardize that.  and the current bottom line is accounting for sheldon's current salary.  so if they drop him a few extra mil, then it offsets said bottom line which is completely unacceptable for banner and lurie.    

with or without sheldon brown, this team should be good enough to make the playoffs.  so their thinking is, why pay brown even more money when this team is already good enough to make the postseason?  

playoff appearances = increased revenue.  and the way that they look at it is if they can get into the playoffs by spending the bare minimum, then they will maximize profits based on whatever degree of success that occurs in jan/feb.  so even if they get knocked out in the first round, oh well.  the revenue made from one playoff game is better than no playoff revenue at all.  so when something happens like last season, when they miraculously made it to the nfccg, the profits became astronomical.  the sooner people realize and come to terms with the fact that this is how ownership and management think, the less you'll be disappointed by them.  

I just have to disagree with you. There is no magic formula for dollars spent that just gets you into the playoffs but no further. If throwing dollars around = playoffs the taterskins would be a contender every year. I think the Eagles want to win a championship - for the same reason the fans want one, but also to shut the media up and because it's a surefire way to increase revenue.

The Eagles aren't cheap but they have a philosophy that includes targetting more money into un-sexy positions like the O and DL and investing in youth, locking up promising young players to long-term deals and more often than not letting older vets walk. I'm not sure this is the way to win a Super Bowl, but I also don't think it has anything to do with being cheap. They just believe that's the way to build a contender.

I agree with a lot of the criticism of this team but the whole idea that they're cheap or just in it for $$$ is bull.

ice grillin you

theres way to many times they dont put the best possible players on the field for the worst possible reasons to say they truly yearn for a title
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Kenzinger

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2009, 03:42:06 PM
theres way to many times they dont put the best possible players on the field for the worst possible reasons to say they truly yearn for a title

You're going to have to explain this to me. They landed the best free agent available (Samuels) last year. This year, they traded for Peters and made him the highest paid LT in football. Why do you doubt their commitment to putting a winning product on the field?

You know who truly yearns for a title? Al Davis and Dan Snyder. If only yearning for a title actually got you one, those guys would be consistent winners ...

Seabiscuit36

Quote from: Kenzinger on April 28, 2009, 03:45:50 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2009, 03:42:06 PM
theres way to many times they dont put the best possible players on the field for the worst possible reasons to say they truly yearn for a title

You're going to have to explain this to me. They landed the best free agent available (Samuels) last year. This year, they traded for Peters and made him the highest paid LT in football. Why do you doubt their commitment to putting a winning product on the field?

You know who truly yearns for a title? Al Davis and Dan Snyder. If only yearning for a title actually got you one, those guys would be consistent winners ...
Joselio on the field over Lito ring a bell?
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

ice grillin you

considine over lewis

joselio over hood

kirkland/gardner over trotter

ect...
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SD_Eagle5

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2009, 03:42:06 PM
theres way to many times they dont put the best possible players on the field for the worst possible reasons to say they truly yearn for a title

CONSPIRACY!!

Kenzinger

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 28, 2009, 03:46:27 PM
Quote from: Kenzinger on April 28, 2009, 03:45:50 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2009, 03:42:06 PM
theres way to many times they dont put the best possible players on the field for the worst possible reasons to say they truly yearn for a title

You're going to have to explain this to me. They landed the best free agent available (Samuels) last year. This year, they traded for Peters and made him the highest paid LT in football. Why do you doubt their commitment to putting a winning product on the field?

You know who truly yearns for a title? Al Davis and Dan Snyder. If only yearning for a title actually got you one, those guys would be consistent winners ...
Joselio on the field over Lito ring a bell?

Lito Sheppard decided to dawg it and had a miserable year last season.

And the Eagles finished 3rd in passing defense anyway.

ice grillin you

Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 28, 2009, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2009, 03:42:06 PM
theres way to many times they dont put the best possible players on the field for the worst possible reasons to say they truly yearn for a title

CONSPIRACY!!



mos def
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PoopyfaceMcGee

They were great in passing defense last year.  Until that pesky NFCC game.

Kenzinger

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2009, 03:51:52 PM
considine over lewis

joselio over hood

kirkland/gardner over trotter

ect...

So every bad decision this team makes is evidence they don't "yearn" for a championship?

Kenzinger

Quote from: FastFreddie on April 28, 2009, 04:00:12 PM
They were great in passing defense last year.  Until that pesky NFCC game.

Did Dawkins play in that game? I can't remember.

ice grillin you

Quote from: Kenzinger on April 28, 2009, 04:00:23 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2009, 03:51:52 PM
considine over lewis

joselio over hood

kirkland/gardner over trotter

ect...

So every bad decision this team makes is evidence they don't "yearn" for a championship?


benching or blackballing a player because he wont resign an extension with you is not the same thing as missing on a draft pick

as for lito they took his position away long before he ever dawged anything
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Kenzinger

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2009, 04:04:18 PM
Quote from: Kenzinger on April 28, 2009, 04:00:23 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2009, 03:51:52 PM
considine over lewis

joselio over hood

kirkland/gardner over trotter

ect...

So every bad decision this team makes is evidence they don't "yearn" for a championship?


benching or blackballing a player because he wont resign an extension with you is not the same thing as missing on a draft pick

as for lito they took his position away long before he ever dawged anything

Lito missed 14 in games in three seasons prior to last year and they signed Samuel for a more reliable corner. Going into last year they had Lito and Brown listed as "co-starters" even though Brown has always been the far superior CB. Then Lito dogged it and played poorly when he got on the field. He's not even going to start for the Jets - good riddance.

Seabiscuit36

"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons