Sheldon Brown wants to be traded

[reese125]

I would try to work this out behind the scenes with Sheldon and possibly give him a little more cash for this season

Banner meet Kenzinger...Kenzinger meet Banner


and although I agree with you somewhat that Hobbs could be a crapshoot, I give him the benefit of the doubt playing in this eagles defense because the Patriots play a 3-4 zone coverage majority of the time--so to say Hobbs is mainly responsible for all those TD's is not quite crystal clear.

[Kenzinger]

I would try to work this out behind the scenes with Sheldon and possibly give him a little more cash for this season

Banner meet Kenzinger...Kenzinger meet Banner


and although I agree with you somewhat that Hobbs could be a crapshoot, I give him the benefit of the doubt playing in this eagles defense because the Patriots play a 3-4 zone coverage majority of the time--so to say Hobbs is mainly responsible for all those TD's is not quite crystal clear.

I don't think Hobbs was "mainly" responsible for it, but I also don't think he's nearly as good a starting cornerback as Brown. The Eagles really improved the team in a lot of ways this offseason, I'd hate to see the season derailed because their cornerback is being a vaj. I wonder if they could pay Brown more upfront with the guarantee he'll either be traded or cut after this season? It's not like they hang onto many guys older than 30 anyway.

[ice grillin you]

they eagles wouldnt pay him more then guarantee he gets cut....that makes no sense and would never happen

if they pay him more its because they value his play and their intention would be to get the most out of him they can over the next 2-3 years

[Kenzinger]

they eagles wouldnt pay him more then guarantee he gets cut....that makes no sense and would never happen

if they pay him more its because they value his play and their intention would be to get the most out of him they can over the next 2-3 years

Pay Sheldon more for one year. The Eagles get his services for another Super Bowl run, minus the grumbling and locker room bullshtein. Sheldon gets more money upfront and the guarantee they're going to release or trade him at the end of the year. Seems like a win-win to me.

Right now you have to look at the likely outcome. The Eagles can either trade Sheldon for a pick and downgrade their secondary this year. Or they can play hardball and risk having Brown dog it and get buried on the depth chart, then traded for a pick.

Or they can play hardball and bank on Sheldon playing the good soldier anyway? I think that's a little dangerous. I'd rather work something out for both sides in the short term.

[ice grillin you]

they arent giving him a guarantee that he will be cut next year...it just would never happen...with or without more money this year

[Sgt PSN]

Pay Sheldon more for one year. The Eagles get his services for another Super Bowl run, minus the grumbling and locker room bullshtein. Sheldon gets more money upfront and the guarantee they're going to release or trade him at the end of the year. Seems like a win-win to me.

good in theory, bad in reality.  we're talking about the eagles here.  jeff lurie and joe banner in particular.  and neither of them really care about making a super bowl run.  they want a team that's good enough to fight for a spot in the playoffs.  that's it.  anything they get beyond that is gravy as far as they are concerned.  and by gravy, i mean cake.  and by cake i mean cash money.  

[Kenzinger]

Pay Sheldon more for one year. The Eagles get his services for another Super Bowl run, minus the grumbling and locker room bullshtein. Sheldon gets more money upfront and the guarantee they're going to release or trade him at the end of the year. Seems like a win-win to me.

good in theory, bad in reality.  we're talking about the eagles here.  jeff lurie and joe banner in particular.  and neither of them really care about making a super bowl run.  they want a team that's good enough to fight for a spot in the playoffs.  that's it.  anything they get beyond that is gravy as far as they are concerned.  and by gravy, i mean cake.  and by cake i mean cash money.  

They just gave Jason Peters a 4-year, $53 million extension that made him the highest paid LT in football. Last year they signed the premier free agent Asante Samuel to a 6-year deal worth around $57 million with $20 million guaranteed.

I don't think the Eagles are cheap. I think they have a very rigid philosophy on where they spend their money and they don't overpay for big names just to appease the fans.

[Drunkmasterflex]

I am curious the Eagles lock these guys up and usually pay them the duration or a good portion of their contracts, I wonder how that translates to guys that get a ton of money up front and only stick around a year or two.

[ice grillin you]

Pay Sheldon more for one year. The Eagles get his services for another Super Bowl run, minus the grumbling and locker room bullshtein. Sheldon gets more money upfront and the guarantee they're going to release or trade him at the end of the year. Seems like a win-win to me.

good in theory, bad in reality.  we're talking about the eagles here.  jeff lurie and joe banner in particular.  and neither of them really care about making a super bowl run.  they want a team that's good enough to fight for a spot in the playoffs.  that's it.  anything they get beyond that is gravy as far as they are concerned.  and by gravy, i mean cake.  and by cake i mean cash money.  

They just gave Jason Peters a 4-year, $53 million extension that made him the highest paid LT in football. Last year they signed the premier free agent Asante Samuel to a 6-year deal worth around $57 million with $20 million guaranteed.

I don't think the Eagles are cheap. I think they have a very rigid philosophy on where they spend their money and they don't overpay for big names just to appease the fans.

cheap and not doing everything possible to win it all are not the same thing

[Kenzinger]

Pay Sheldon more for one year. The Eagles get his services for another Super Bowl run, minus the grumbling and locker room bullshtein. Sheldon gets more money upfront and the guarantee they're going to release or trade him at the end of the year. Seems like a win-win to me.

good in theory, bad in reality.  we're talking about the eagles here.  jeff lurie and joe banner in particular.  and neither of them really care about making a super bowl run.  they want a team that's good enough to fight for a spot in the playoffs.  that's it.  anything they get beyond that is gravy as far as they are concerned.  and by gravy, i mean cake.  and by cake i mean cash money.  

They just gave Jason Peters a 4-year, $53 million extension that made him the highest paid LT in football. Last year they signed the premier free agent Asante Samuel to a 6-year deal worth around $57 million with $20 million guaranteed.

I don't think the Eagles are cheap. I think they have a very rigid philosophy on where they spend their money and they don't overpay for big names just to appease the fans.

cheap and not doing everything possible to win it all are not the same thing

Yep. The Eagles are obviously willing to spend money. They're just not willing to overspend or mortgage the future on free agents. They believe that by staying close year after year, eventually they'll break through and win a championship. I'm not sure that philosophy will work but it's not because they're cheap.

[Sgt PSN]

Pay Sheldon more for one year. The Eagles get his services for another Super Bowl run, minus the grumbling and locker room bullshtein. Sheldon gets more money upfront and the guarantee they're going to release or trade him at the end of the year. Seems like a win-win to me.

good in theory, bad in reality.  we're talking about the eagles here.  jeff lurie and joe banner in particular.  and neither of them really care about making a super bowl run.  they want a team that's good enough to fight for a spot in the playoffs.  that's it.  anything they get beyond that is gravy as far as they are concerned.  and by gravy, i mean cake.  and by cake i mean cash money.  

They just gave Jason Peters a 4-year, $53 million extension that made him the highest paid LT in football. Last year they signed the premier free agent Asante Samuel to a 6-year deal worth around $57 million with $20 million guaranteed.

I don't think the Eagles are cheap. I think they have a very rigid philosophy on where they spend their money and they don't overpay for big names just to appease the fans.

i never said they didn't sign players to big deals.  but they have a bottom line and they won't do anything to jeopardize that.  and the current bottom line is accounting for sheldon's current salary.  so if they drop him a few extra mil, then it offsets said bottom line which is completely unacceptable for banner and lurie.    

with or without sheldon brown, this team should be good enough to make the playoffs.  so their thinking is, why pay brown even more money when this team is already good enough to make the postseason?  

playoff appearances = increased revenue.  and the way that they look at it is if they can get into the playoffs by spending the bare minimum, then they will maximize profits based on whatever degree of success that occurs in jan/feb.  so even if they get knocked out in the first round, oh well.  the revenue made from one playoff game is better than no playoff revenue at all.  so when something happens like last season, when they miraculously made it to the nfccg, the profits became astronomical.  the sooner people realize and come to terms with the fact that this is how ownership and management think, the less you'll be disappointed by them.  

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

C'mon, you guys are too hard on AR. Pound for pound he is one of the best coaches in the league.

This gem shouldn't go ignored.

[ice grillin you]

if they werent so close so many years it wouldnt bother me but having an off season that consists of signing mike mcmahon the year after you come up just short in the super bowl is unacceptable

being 30+ mil under the cap and not tossing sheldon a few bucks the year after just missing the superbowl is just stupid

if you go 3-13 then fine be extra selective in how you upgrade/rebuild...but when youre approaching the 50 year anniversary of your last title and were a drive away from the sb last year then put the "pedal to the metal"

[Sgt PSN]

C'mon, you guys are too hard on AR. Pound for pound he is one of the best coaches in the league.

This gem shouldn't go ignored.

yes it should because it was a fat joke that didn't make sense.  pound for pound analogies are usually best applied to smaller people and almost always applied to people who are excellent at what they do.  

reid is neither small nor excellent at what he does.

pound for pound, he's the most stubborn and arrogant coach in the nfl.  now that makes sense.  

[Sgt PSN]

if they werent so close so many years it wouldnt bother me but having an off season that consists of signing mike mcmahon the year after you come up just short in the super bowl is unacceptable

being 30+ mil under the cap and not tossing sheldon a few bucks the year after just missing the superbowl is just stupid

if you go 3-13 then fine be extra selective in how you upgrade/rebuild...but when youre approaching the 50 year anniversary of your last title and were a drive away from the sb last year then put the "pedal to the metal"

stop thinking like a fan.