Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagle (again)

stalker · January 31, 2009, 05:39:06 PM

Quote from: DutchBird on January 31, 2009, 01:38:36 PM
Quote from: stalker on January 31, 2009, 11:41:50 AM
Quote from: DutchBird on January 31, 2009, 06:32:28 AM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on January 28, 2009, 02:33:59 PM
great teach the kid how to be a below average qb

From what I remember, Dougie lacked the physical tools, not the smarts. IIRC when he moved to Cleveland, and the Eagles played them, the Eagles defense got embarassed in a way that has only been done to them by Manning. And it turned out it was Dougie who was pretty much responsible for the whole offensive game plan of the Browns.

Mind you also that it is a general rule (almost a law) that middle of the pack (or below) players usually make fare better coaches than former stand-outs, especially when they have to coach those not of the once-in-a-decade-natural-talent types. A rule that seems to go for any sport.

You got that right Katzenjammer!

By the way, is this how you wear your hair?

WTF is this all about?

Just joking around Scott Hamel, I am Native American so I have a great hatred for the Dutch.

rjs246 · January 31, 2009, 06:14:52 PM

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 31, 2009, 04:24:11 PM
Anyone hear on 610 that the birds want to bring back Gruden to be the OC? I'd do it

That sounds like imaginary horseshtein but of course I'd do it.

Magical_Retard · January 31, 2009, 06:42:51 PM

Why in the world would Gruden do that? I mean he can get a head coaching job easily so I think he would rather sit out a year and either get a good college job or one of 10 or so head coach positions available next yr in the NFL.

Besides Reid would never sacrifice his boy Marty and demote him.

General_Failure · January 31, 2009, 06:55:08 PM

Gruden is Barry Switzer with a better publicist. I don't want him or his stupid faces anywhere near this team again. The guy bitches about specific players more than I do.

Magical_Retard · January 31, 2009, 07:10:39 PM

He is better than Marty though. And I think he has enough of a backbone that if he was on this staff he would not just simply follow Reid's crazy offensive philosophy. And that is exactly why he would never be considered even if he wanted to do this. And he doesn't. I don't even know how this started? Who mentioned it on WIP? A caller?

ice grillin you · January 31, 2009, 07:13:34 PM

Quote from: General_Failure on January 31, 2009, 06:55:08 PM
Gruden is Barry Switzer with a better publicist.

this is why you should never talk football again

General_Failure · January 31, 2009, 07:50:18 PM

Did he, or did he not, win a superbowl with a pre-built team, then proceed to do nothing for the rest of his time in that city?

Rome · January 31, 2009, 08:01:19 PM

Switzer took a dynastic team at the end of its roll and basically stood there looking stupid while the Hall of Famers on the field took care of business for the third time.

Gruden, on the other hand, took a team of losers who couldn't win a road game with the air temperature under 40 degrees and led them to a Super Bowl win, and he beat the team he had coached just the year before in the same game.

I'll agree that the shine is off Gruden's apple, but comparing him to a meathead like Barry Switzer is ridiculous, dude.

Regardless, Gruden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morningwood.

ice grillin you · January 31, 2009, 08:04:50 PM

Quote from: General_Failure on January 31, 2009, 07:50:18 PM
Did he, or did he not, win a superbowl with a pre-built team, then proceed to do nothing for the rest of his time in that city?

what romey said

im not putting gruden on a pedastal but to compare him to switzer is completely retarded

Magical_Retard · January 31, 2009, 09:17:59 PM

I actually think Gruden is not that great of a coach. In fact he might best as a coordinator but his attitude is exactly why he would never be brought here. Al though according to reports from players in Tampa Bay he likes to get into fights with players and even belittle them if they get hurt.

Marty is not going anywhere unless he is somehow magically offered a Head Coach job. Only way that happens is if this team somehow wins the Superbowl.

So basically MM is here to stay as long as Reid is here.

QB Eagles · January 31, 2009, 10:16:05 PM

At this point in his career I think Gruden would rather be a high school HC than an NFL OC.

PhillyPhreak54 · February 01, 2009, 03:06:28 PM

Quote from: General_Failure on January 31, 2009, 06:55:08 PM
Gruden is Barry Switzer with a better publicist. I don't want him or his stupid faces anywhere near this team again. The guy bitches about specific players more than I do.

Agreed. I have never understood the love affair with Gruden. He's highly overrated. He hates young players, he hates developing young QBs (as evidenced by his starting QBs; Gannon, Johnson, Garcia, Griese, etc) and his offense is restrictive and archaic.

Remember all the dink and dunk bitching about Andy the first few years? Bring Gruden in and watch those down field passes go bye-bye.

Rome · February 01, 2009, 03:18:28 PM

Gruden > Fat boy.

JackStraw · February 01, 2009, 03:22:10 PM

Pederson ='s rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic...

shorebird · February 02, 2009, 09:22:30 PM

Quote from: JackStraw on February 01, 2009, 03:22:10 PM
Pederson ='s rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic...