Eagles 2009 Draft Thread

[General_Failure]

The Eagles did a great job getting back to last year's level, offensively. The best you can say about them trying to improve is that they drafted a replacement for Cheggie.

[BigEd76]

Cowboys got Roy Williams

hahahahaha

[ice grillin you]

The Eagles did a great job getting back to last year's level, offensively. The best you can say about them trying to improve is that they drafted a replacement for Cheggie.

exactly

they REPLACED two tackles and did a fine job in doing it but is the offensive line definitely going to be better than last year or even as good?

[Seabiscuit36]

Cowboys got Roy Williams

hahahahaha

i think he'll have a much better year with no TO there, that is to say i would be very surprised if he's under 800yds and 8 tds. 

[shorebird]

At least Andy is trying. It's seems he's heard what his qb  has said and has done his best to get the players he needs, at least in the draft.

Really though, he did the least he could to get new weapons. Trading for a proven receiver was too hard. Gonzalez was too old, even though that didn't stop a team with a much younger QB from grabbing him. Instead, Reid used a couple of draft picks in what is supposed to be a weak draft.

If this is Reid's best effort, he still fell short. I can give him credit for trying to keep McNabb off his back with the two new linemen, but I think we know how the season is going to play out.

I disagree, he built up the line, and added two top offensive draft prospects. If he'd have traded for Boldin, it would have been better, but I can't complain too much right now.

[methdeez]

The Eagles did a great job getting back to last year's level, offensively. The best you can say about them trying to improve is that they drafted a replacement for Cheggie.

exactly

they REPLACED two tackles and did a fine job in doing it but is the offensive line definitely going to be better than last year or even as good?

There was at least one study I saw that showed that line contiunity was almost as important as talent. Meaning that if you are going to change the line, it had better be for a big improvement in talent, otherwise learning to play with each other results in worse performance.

[The BIGSTUD]

The offensive line should be significantly better. Peters>>>>>Tra and Andrews is back. As for Stacy compared to Runyan? Not sure who's better at Runyan's point in his career. The biggest question by far is Stacy and his knee progress.

[Magical_Retard]

At least Andy is trying. It's seems he's heard what his qb  has said and has done his best to get the players he needs, at least in the draft.

Really though, he did the least he could to get new weapons. Trading for a proven receiver was too hard. Gonzalez was too old, even though that didn't stop a team with a much younger QB from grabbing him. Instead, Reid used a couple of draft picks in what is supposed to be a weak draft.

If this is Reid's best effort, he still fell short. I can give him credit for trying to keep McNabb off his back with the two new linemen, but I think we know how the season is going to play out.

Exactly. Hopefully these picks work and I give him credit for once selecting a skill position player in the first round but this is the 2nd best option and not the ideal scenario I envisioned.

[The BIGSTUD]

I'll give you Gonzalez, but there were no proven receivers available or they would have been traded. The Giants were smitten over Edwards and they couldn't find a way to get him with 3 picks they had on the first day. Boldin obviously wasn't available, because 3 or 4 teams were hot for him and no one could strike a deal. The Bengals flat out said Chad Johnson is not get traded and to shut up about it.

There's no way you can knock the Eagles for not getting a proven receiver. Maclin was the best option available. Gonzalez you have a legit beef, though. If you wanted Boldin it would've probably taken a 1 and a 2, if not more. Since all that "a 2nd rounder will get it done now" Sal Pal was 100% total BS.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

People who don't think the Eagles did enough this off-season need another Mike McMahon off-season to feel some pain.

[Tomahawk]

People who don't think the Eagles did enough this off-season need another Mike McMahon off-season to feel some pain.

Ha - that's probably why people are so easily excited about this draft. After the past two years drafts and prior offseasons lack of luster, the bar isn't really that high

[Eagaholic]

This is from Donovan's blog where he was talking about the draft

"Make no mistake, I've been training like crazy to make sure that I can improve as a quarterback and do everything necessary to try and win a championship for this city," McNabb wrote. "I said it before, I was inspired by the way the Phillies won the World Series and how they were treated by the city and their fans and I want to experience that myself in the worst way

You'll still get booed Donovan

[Feva]

I'll give you Gonzalez, but there were no proven receivers available or they would have been traded. The Giants were smitten over Edwards and they couldn't find a way to get him with 3 picks they had on the first day. Boldin obviously wasn't available, because 3 or 4 teams were hot for him and no one could strike a deal. The Bengals flat out said Chad Johnson is not get traded and to shut up about it.

Not true.  A 1st round pick (with other considerations) would have gotten Edwards out of Cleveland.  The Giants didn't get him because they refused to give more than a 2nd and 5th.  A 1st would have gotten Chad out of Cincinnati as well, although he's not worth that price.  Even though the Cards would have had to been blown away with an offer for Boldin... a 1st round pick would have gone a long way in doing so.

If the Eagles were serious about going after any of those guys, that 1st round pick they used on Maclin would have definitely landed Braylon or Chad or possibly Boldin.

The Gonzalez thing is just inexcusable.

[Seabiscuit36]

nobody trades 1st rounders for WR's outside of the cowboys

[ice grillin you]

cole from yesterday...

The offensive line should be significantly better. Peters>>>>>Tra and Andrews is back.

I'll give you Gonzalez, but there were no proven receivers available or they would have been traded. The Giants were smitten over Edwards and they couldn't find a way to get him with 3 picks they had on the first day. Boldin obviously wasn't available, because 3 or 4 teams were hot for him and no one could strike a deal. The Bengals flat out said Chad Johnson is not get traded and to shut up about it.

cole recently.....

But for anyone to say this move prevents you from getting Boldin, Edwards or anyone you wanted in the draft, then that is just ridiculous if you think Peters can play.

The Eagles haven't gave up nearly this much in a trade for a WR in the past. Then again, when was the last time a WR as good as Boldin was available for trade?

Plus the Eagles apparently are enamored with Boldin. With both firsts this year, I think the Eagles would do a deal like that this year if only this year. Especially if the 21st pick comes and Moreno, Pettigrew are already gone.

Boldin.... Philadelphia.

It's happening.

If Arizona ever decides they want to deal Boldin then he will be an Eagle by the end of that very week. The issue is Arizona doesn't want to deal him right now.

If they put him on the block, he's as good as an Eagle. Guaranteed.

If they aren't giving up a first rounder, then they aren't getting him. That is the asking price.

I'd be much more worried about not only trading away a first rounder, and signing the player to a huge contract, PLUS having him on the most important part of your line than the Andrews signing. Andrews got a very small signing bonus. He could be let go if worst comes to worst at very little cost.

Peters is wanting to be paid as a top 5 LT I believe, plus you give up a first rounder. I say hell no to that and I take my chances in the draft or with Herremans.

Peters had an awful year. He gave up like 10 sacks or so. Sure he was good the years before that, but is it a lock he automatically reverts back to that level? Are you sure enough to give away a great draft pick?