2008-09 Flyers Season Thread

[SD_Eagle5]

Gagne blew in the playoffs. He started of this season on fire then slowly resembled an average player. His concussion problems are scary, one more and he's done. In a perfect world (no cap) I keep him but you have to give to get something and if he has any value there's no better time to move him than now.

[SunMo]

Gagne's a finisher if he has someone setting him up to shoot into a half empty net.  he can't create his own opportunities and he can't take a pass that isn't right on the tape and create with it.  i would be ok with gagne if you tell me that giroux would be centering him all year, gagne's best years where when Forsberg was centering him and setting him up for easy goals.

[BigEd76]

Flyers interested in bringing Ray Emery back to the NHL

yea this will turn out great

[rjs246]

Gagne's a finisher if he has someone setting him up to shoot into a half empty net.  he can't create his own opportunities and he can't take a pass that isn't right on the tape and create with it.  i would be ok with gagne if you tell me that giroux would be centering him all year, gagne's best years where when Forsberg was centering him and setting him up for easy goals.

Every finisher needs a setup man. I'm not arguing that he is a superstar who can make shtein happen on his own night in and night out. I'm saying that he is skilled, plays both ways and knows how to find the back of the net. He's the kind of player that every team needs.

I also wanted to clarify what I said about this team needing a superstar. IGY said that superstars win playoff seriesesesese and I disagree with that. The Bruins don't have any superstars. The difference is that Boston plays like a well oiled machine.

The Flyers play reckless. They are the furthest thing from a well oiled machine that I've ever seen. On a team like that, a superstar can win you extra games. With a superstar I don't think that they lose game two in Pit. They probably also get 5 or so extra regular season wins giving them home ice advantage through a round or two. A superstar allows them to play reckless and physical with a greater chance of success.

[rjs246]

Flyers interested in bringing Ray Emery back to the NHL

yea this will turn out great

The chances of Emery exploding in the Flyers' face would be about 85%. But man, if he was successful he might become one of my favorites. Goalies with zesty attitudes who like to fight and cheapshot opponents are what the Philadelphia Flyers are all about.

[Munson]

Yeah for a guy who has pissed and moaned about the Flyers lack of scorers, getting rid of the second leading goal scorer seems pretty logical.

Also, while he wasn't as prominent in the playoffs (then again who really was?), he still had the most goals for the team in the playoffs this year.

I agree that he'd be best suited to play with a guy like Giroux who can continually set him up. Not that Richards isn't a pretty good passer in his own right.

[rjs246]

Richards isn't a top end play-maker either. He's a Brind'Amour kind of grinder. Plays very well offensively and has the guts to do everything but he isn't a superstar with out of this world talent and he still managed to set Gagne up plenty this year. I just don't see the need or the desire to get rid of a player like Gagne.

[ice grillin you]

totally disagree on richards...hes an outstanding passer...they just dont have any great finishers

gagne is in his 30's is coming off a decent year and is one concussion away from being lindros...its actually the perfect storm to trade him

[Seabiscuit36]

I love Gagne, but its time to move on, as IGY said he's one hit away from Primeau/Lindros territory.  Gagne is only 28 i think though.  If you can move him for Salary and prospects you do it.  I'd still rather move Briere, but either one needs to be moved.  I do like the Emery talk, he's a good goalie, and always looking for a fight

[ice grillin you]

i thought he was thirty...hes 29 and will turn 30 next season...but in reality hes like 29 going on 34

[Seabiscuit36]

I knew he was eitehr my age or a year older, either way, he's one hit from being a pudding pop

[ice grillin you]

and that would of course hurt his value but id be willing to trade him for just draft picks simply to get rid of his salary

[rjs246]

Westbrook is one hit away from amputation below the knees but you don't trade him away on the off chance that he might get hurt again.

Briere can farging piss off, but I think getting rid of Gagne hurts the team far more than it helps.

[Seabiscuit36]

Get used to Randy Jones, he's getting hip surgery and wont be ready for Training Camp

[ice grillin you]

Westbrook is one hit away from amputation below the knees but you don't trade him away on the off chance that he might get hurt again.

Briere can farging piss off, but I think getting rid of Gagne hurts the team far more than it helps.

different sports totally different situations...but if the nfl had a real cap and the eagles were over it and had no chance at a title this year id trade weastbrook in a heartbeat