Donovan McNabb

[MDS]

aint like that

we dont play. he does. hes got the wrong mentality. hes got the i just threw a bomb to pimp jackson and he got lucky now we have the lead i did my part mentality. so when the defense comes back give up 7 and mcnabb needs his own 7 to send it into ot, youre talking about something he doesnt think he should have to do.

that aint a qb who is gonna win you an titles.

[Rome]

Let's argue some more about how McNabb's a fag or a mama's boy.

That never gets old.

[ice grillin you]

would they have caught the crossing routes that were 3 feet behind them too?

lol

the excuses for mcnabb are hilarious...hes awesome enough to get to conference championships and the team only makes it that far because of him...but the reason they dont ever make superbowls is everyones fault BUT him


if you need someone the equivalent to larry fitzgerald (the best wr in the entire farging league) to make your qb good then perhaps its time to get a better qb

[Rome]

Stop it.

McNabb has farging Kevin Curtis and Reggie Brown to throw to.  In what universe are either of those two remotely close to Fitzgerald or Boldin in terms of ability?

If Reid wasn't such a stubborn fat farg he would have addressed the WR position after he got rid of Owens but he didn't.  DePimp is a good start but there isn't another receiver on the team who would be a starter in the NFL on a good team.  Not one.

[Magical_Retard]

This year in the playoffs the team did get as far as it did, offensively speaking, because of McNabb. This year more than any other recent years they had no running game and no contribution from Westbrook overall. I think everyone can agree Westbrook is the best offensive player they have.

He had been perfect, QB rating wise, in the fourth qrt. Besides McNabb there was no offense in the playoffs.

Defense carried the team overall though. Offense was inconsistent and the defense was rock solid for the last 2 + months.

In IGY's mind the team gets this far in spite of McNabb and then loses because of him. Truth is somewhere in the middle. He is good enough to get to a point but he is not good enough to overcome a defense failing and being involved in a shoot out with his inaccuracy and skill players vs someone like Warner and his skill players.

[ice grillin you]

what team cant use better wr's...if the eagles hadnt made the playoffs in the least ten years or were flaming out in the wild card round because of a lack of wr's then i could see hollering about them...but they consistently make the conf title game...do you honestly believe all of a sudden at that point the reason they dont win is wide receivers...over this time period plenty of teams have won without great wr's

im not even saying that they couldnt have had better wr's over the years because obviously they could...im just done with the wr's is why they dont win the sb bandwagon...at the very least you have to admit that the more people cry for wr's the more people are saying the qb isnt good enough

[stalker]

what I don't get is this; McNabb shows these periods of god-awful inaccuracy and other periods of tremendous play. When you average it out, he is way, way above average at playing the position. I can get my head around whether it is worse to complete 65% playing streaky like that or 60% and be very, very consistent. I do know the streakiness makes it much more exciting to be a fan.

[reese125]

people/other teams fans keep throwing thew fact out there that "you guys are spoiled and dont know what you have...you'll regret it when hes gone...I wish we had a McNabb...Philly fans are ridiculous for complaining..etc..etc..."

Those are the people have never took first place in anything in their life because the last time I looked consistently taking third or second place sucks. When those fans get to that point, then they'll know why the harsh complaints and then they can lick my nuts

[ice grillin you]

lol @ 65%...mcnabb has never been at 65%...i mean hes not even at 60% for his career much less 65

[mussa]

make it stop, make it stop!

[stalker]

Sorry Jig you are right. For the sake of the argument the ACTUAL numbers are not really important. Let's make it 60% and streaky or  55% and consistent. Which would be better?

[ice grillin you]

a superbowl win

[pinoyboy2pt0]

I think it's three parts, 1 part McNabb, 1 part Reid, and 1 part Heckert.

McNabb can't throw slants effectively.  When he does, they're very successful, when they're not...worm burners, too high, etc.  5 can throw the long ball and vertical routes with great accuracy (imo).  Reid (may?) know this, so his play calling is call 1 slant a game and the rest are vertical bomb-routes with the intermediate routes being hooks.  Makes sense why slants work and we hardly even see them, why Reid calls long bomb routes and intermediate come back routes and when Reid does call the true WCO w/ someone that can effectively time and time again throw slants (AJ, Garcia) the offense is so much more efficient.  

It's also the Andy and Heckerts job to realize that and get him some players (since you built a franchise around him) that can use their body well on come backs and the speed and size to not only deal with intermediate inaccuracies but also grab the long ball.  I feel that when teams go man against us, it's easier to defend.  Slants work well vs man, but we don't really run slants.  Comebacks work well, but when you WR isn't physical or can't shield the defender well or just sucks, it creates problems, esp. if the CB is allowed to jump the route.  When most of 5's passes are comebacks and outs, it's easier for the defender to get the WR if the ball's not thrown perfectly in stride.  I think that's why TO was so successful here bc he could not only create separation and grab the wild ones but also was physical enough to beat press and physical enough to shed the man covering him.  And that new man should be Boldin

[stalker]

Some of that made sense but including Feeley makes you sound like some sort of maniac!

[General_Failure]

what team cant use better wr's...

Arizona?