Donovan McNabb

Started by PhillyPhreak54, September 21, 2008, 12:23:35 AM

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ice grillin you

im not basing cobb off the ravens or dallas games...im basing him off everything ive seen including two training camps college and his limited play so far...im also not ready to write him off completely which is why i said he scares me as opposed to saying something like he should never play a down for this team...i dont expect him to ever be a nfl starter but im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt at this point

there is no rebuidling in todays nfl...starting over is not reason to get rid of a good qb...im a critic of this team but theres no way you can write off a season in january.....dolphins went 1-15 to playoffs...thats just the way the league is right now...mcnabb is a maddening because hes better than most qb's in the league so he automatically puts the eagles in contention but he also is the reason they maybe will never win it all...theres no easy answer here



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MDS

thats basically mcnabb in a nutshell.

there are no better options, so you gotta stick with him. he will most likely never win a super bowl because hes a sour, bitter, corny, unfunny loser, but hes also one of the best qbs in the nfl and hell get you to the playoffs. there, he might fall ass backwards into a bowl. probably not, but he gives you a better shot than kolb or feeley or anyone else their gonna get their hands on.
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: MDS on February 01, 2009, 01:25:46 PM
thats basically mcnabb in a nutshell.

there are no better options, so you gotta stick with him. he will most likely never win a super bowl because hes a sour, bitter, corny, unfunny loser, but hes also one of the best qbs in the nfl and hell get you to the playoffs. there, he might fall ass backwards into a bowl. probably not, but he gives you a better shot than kolb or feeley or anyone else their gonna get their hands on.

Sign this guy up to do some sportswriting.

ice grillin you

at the very least a blog
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MDS

lets google my name so more you creepy perv

Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

JackStraw

Perhaps, but this contract dance has a lot more freight to it than most suspect. Does it seem all he wants is just a little re-work so he can live the dream of retiring in Philly? Methinks not. This is as much about "someone's gonna pay" for the mid-season benching transgression, and all the other ones throughout the years. Like TO, he feels he is "outplaying" his current deal to a less than appreciative audience.

If the F/O gives him the princely sum, I'd suggest a longer run of disappointment because of future decisions made against that context, than if he was dealt.

How can a QB like Collins, Garcia, Casssel or a Warner not be a better option? Cheaper and better records by all of them, if the past year was any evidence. If the F/O could give up their myopic belief that McNabb is the grail, they'd have to pay more attention to other areas of the game.

Sadly, the F/O has no such insight, blindly believing that just another year will turn 5 into Elway-like redemption. Waiting for Godot, Waiting for Guffman, Waiting for a SB in Philly.

All that money for McNabb? Please. Meanwhile for the want of a measley $20,000 and "principal", Raheem Brock say's "hi".
Endless regression to the mean

Rome

McNabb had 375 yards passing and 3 touchdowns two weeks ago.  And he did it with mostly zesty receivers, a complete absence of any sort of legitimate running game, and a retard on the sidelines calling the game like it was a pickup game on a sandlot in South Philly.

If the defense doesn't completely shtein the bed he wins that game going away.

McNabb isn't the farging problem, you iceholes.


ice grillin you

Quote from: Rome on February 01, 2009, 02:22:18 PM
McNabb isn't the farging problem, you iceholes.


lol...i love you romey
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PhillyPhreak54

Sign him to a contract.

Get him another weapon or two.

Send Kevin Kolb to the moon.

JackStraw

...and shtein the bed the first half for 6 farging points. More money spent on the other areas, a QB who isn't Jeckel and Hyde and maybe we don't need third quarter heroics. farg, a QB could just apply some heroics to the last three-farging-minutes-for-once-in-his-farging-career would be nice.

My point isn't his mercurial skills that ebb and flow by the quarter - it's that they shouldn't appease hidden agendas, sulking, etc. in the contract dance. Make it clear that for a fair price he stays - as a late career QB with some success. (Along with multiple flaws and  injuries.) This isn't some litmus test for redressing other issues and grievances.

What happens if the deal lingers, and he pouts through mini-camps with sideways media leakage through proxy's? All while the D goes into major upheaval and aging players in other positions continue to bid farewell to their high-water marks.

Or a major announcement of huge money to stay forever - how does that make the Kolb pick look then? Does that mean the F/O retains all the other sentimental, one-step-over-the-hill favorites on the team? Like shifting doppelgangers, Reid and McNabb allow each other to mask team failure on a rotating basis preventing meaningful progress. I can't see much progress since 04. Has there been some?

For me, dealing McNabb means the rest of the organization - most importantly Lurie, would have to grow-up.

Endless regression to the mean

Rome

Please stop it with Kolb.  He's a non-factor in all of this.

General_Failure

He's the non-factor of the future, baby!

The man. The myth. The legend.

Magical_Retard

At least when McNabb messed up in the first half it still led to 2 FGs and one missed FG. With the amount of money this team has under the cap why in the world would giving him more money concern you?

Kerry Collins, outside of a few games, had one of the better running games to help support him. Garcia has done nothing in Tampa Bay and himself needs a strong supporting cast. I love the dude but cmon. Warner only has amazing numbers when he has not 1 but 2 legitimate all pro WRs who just might be the best WR duo in the league right now. You think Warner puts up the same #s with these WRs? Cassel might be who we saw but he could also be the product of playing for the best coach in the league and just like Warner playing with 1 HOF WR and the perfect compliment in Welker. Better yet put McNabb on this past yrs Patriots team...you think he does not put up better #s than Casell?

The money should not be the issue. They have tons of it. They always do because they never use it. If they have to use some to re-sign him then do so. But if they get some offer that they can not say no to...then go ahead and trade him. But than that means even if they know Kolb is not ready they will force him out there.




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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 01, 2009, 03:03:57 PM
Sign him to a contract.

Get him another weapon or two.

Send Kevin Kolb to the moon.

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