Shawn Andrews chemical imbalance thread

[ice grillin you]

I don't adore Banner.  Rather, I have a rational opinion of him and realize there are both positive and negative aspects to his involvement with the team.

name one positive...and dont use the front office talking point "salary cap guru"...everyone undertsands the cap and many work it better than him

[Rome]

Many work the salary cap better than Banner?



Your blind hatred of that guy is comical, dookie.

[ice grillin you]

please explain his genius...for starters what makes him better at the cap than say any of the eagles division rivals

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

He helps the team make a profit.  Since he's been involved as the head money man, the team has been more competitive than ever, has built a new stadium, and has avoided letting money or cap problems stop them from being competitive.

On the other hand, he should stick to the office and not be a face to the media.  Clearly, he is driven by making the most profit and not being the most competitive, but the two are not necessarily mutually exclusive as the "everyman" wants to believe.  It's not that simple.

The team would probably be better off without him at this point, but since he's a Lurie puppet anyway, firing Banner would just cause another Lurie extension to wind up in his place.

[SD_Eagle5]

please explain his genius...for starters what makes him better at the cap than say any of the eagles division rivals

He exposed the loophole in the cap that pretty much every team in the league follows. The Eagles are somewhat consistenly in the top of the league in terms of overall payroll but always seem to be $10-15 million under every season and are able to sign whomever they'd like. Don't compare this to the Skins because we all know the Eagles pockets aren't as deep as Danny boys.

[Rome]

Make a grandiose statement and then expect others to debunk it.

Awesome.

[rjs246]

The puppet strings that IGY holds over all of you are showing... dance monkeys dance.

[Rome]

Yugo, girl.

[ice grillin you]

please explain his genius...for starters what makes him better at the cap than say any of the eagles division rivals

He exposed the loophole in the cap that pretty much every team in the league follows. The Eagles are somewhat consistenly in the top of the league in terms of overall payroll but always seem to be $10-15 million under every season and are able to sign whomever they'd like. Don't compare this to the Skins because we all know the Eagles pockets aren't as deep as Danny boys.

who says he found the loophole other than the eagles pr machine...theres tons of loopholes in all cba's...and these guys all find them all the time...you honestly think he saw something in the cap that no other lawyer in the country did...gimme a break...im not saying hes worse than anyone else but the cap genius stuff is all PR put out by not surprisingly joe banner...


and deep pockets dont matter when theres a salary cap


lemme ask you this do you honestly believe the eagles couldnt find a hundreds of people to hire that could do with the cap what joe banner does...or does he really understand it in a way that no one else does

He helps the team make a profit.  Since he's been involved as the head money man, the team has been more competitive than ever, has built a new stadium, and has avoided letting money or cap problems stop them from being competitive.

im sure hes a fine business man i dont doubt that...but so is bill bidwell

the fact is he is the anti christ and you wont convince me that he hasnt put a dark cloud over this franchise that they will never get out of until hes far away from philadelphia

[SD_Eagle5]

It's been fairly well documented Banner was the guy who found the loophole. There was an SI or ESPN article a few years back about it but I can't seem to find it. The cap genius phrase doesn't apply today but it did 7-8 years ago when he was the one that exploited the loophole. I'm sure there are other CPA's that could do what Banner does but he's been doing it for years so why change? You're letting your blind hatred of his mistreatment of players to form your opinion. I personally don't like the guy and can see why you would dislike him but he's good at what he does.

As far as the Skins go they convert base salaries to bonuses for cap savings. They're able to do this every year and lead the league in overall payroll because of Danny's fat pockets.

[ice grillin you]

I'm sure there are other CPA's that could do what Banner does but he's been doing it for years so why change? 

because hes isnt any better at it than anyone else and hes worse than some...and hes pretty much hated by anyone thats ever had to deal with him to the point that its hurting the franchise...he lucky in that his childhood friends with the owner or else his ass would have been back in boston a long time ago

As far as the Skins go they convert base salaries to bonuses for cap savings. They're able to do this every year and lead the league in overall payroll because of Danny's fat pockets.

so certain cap rules are waived allowing teams to spend over the cap if they have a rich owner?...i dont understand what youre saying...is it like the nba where you can go over the cap by signing your own players?...how is lil danni allowed to spend more against the cap than anyone else

[SD_Eagle5]

It's more like a manipulation of the cap to free up money. The skins have been #1 in overall payroll for like the last 8 seasons.

[Diomedes]

Back to the Big Kid:

Either this is a strange story, or we're feasting on internet rumor mongering bullshtein.   Which is it?

[ice grillin you]

It's more like a manipulation of the cap to free up money. The skins have been #1 in overall payroll for like the last 8 seasons.

but banner always claims the eagles are #1 in payroll and that they always spend to the cap

how much more money a year do the skins spend on player salaries than the eagles?...im curious because if its like 50 million more then the cap doesnt work how i always believed...if its the difference btwn whatever the cap is and the amount of money the eagles are below the cap then they need a new owner too

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

the fact is he is the anti christ and you wont convince me that he hasnt put a dark cloud over this franchise that they will never get out of until hes far away from philadelphia

Well, how am I supposed to argue with a fact-based, logical argument like that?