A Decade of Andy Reid

SunMo · May 14, 2009, 12:29:37 PM

that way you can say how good your team is when you have to cut so many draft picks

rjs246 · May 14, 2009, 12:30:53 PM

Don't make fun of their drafts. Peter King told me to be a fan of them because of their drafts, stupid.

Rome · May 14, 2009, 12:31:08 PM

All this is well and good but the truth is Boldin's not worth a 1, 3 & 5 plus 10 million a year. I don't know if there's a receiver in the NFL who is worth that especially to the Eagles whose true #1 receiver is also their #1 running back.

SunMo · May 14, 2009, 12:32:58 PM

Quote from: Rome on May 14, 2009, 12:31:08 PM
All this is well and good but the truth is Boldin's not worth a 1, 3 & 5 plus 10 million a year. I don't know if there's a receiver in the NFL who is worth that especially to the Eagles whose true #1 receiver is also their #1 running back.

i don't disagree

rjs246 · May 14, 2009, 12:33:56 PM

I sort of do, but that's just because my first instinct is to argue with everyone over everything. So farg off.

SunMo · May 14, 2009, 12:38:00 PM

i agree with that

Tomahawk · May 14, 2009, 12:52:16 PM

Quote from: Rome on May 14, 2009, 12:31:08 PM
All this is well and good but the truth is Boldin's not worth a 1, 3 & 5 plus 10 million a year. I don't know if there's a receiver in the NFL who is worth that especially to the Eagles whose true #1 receiver is also their #1 running back.

I disagree. The money doesn't matter to me and shouldn't matter to the team either. I understand the argument about giving up that many draft picks, but I would have liked to see it happen anyway. When the Eagles had a legitimate receiver, Westbrook was not the #1

ice grillin you · May 14, 2009, 01:04:37 PM

they didnt make a third round pick this year so for the sake of argument ill use bryan smith from last year

would you rather have mack smith and ingram*** or boldin?

its basically a known commodity now and go for it all vs take your chances on the future

i personally would rather put the petal to the metal but i can see the other side

*** - this should all come with the qualification that boldin would most certainly have come cheaper than a 1 3 and 5

General_Failure · May 14, 2009, 01:12:08 PM

Quote from: Rome on May 14, 2009, 12:31:08 PM
All this is well and good but the truth is Boldin's not worth a 1, 3 & 5 plus 10 million a year. I don't know if there's a receiver in the NFL who is worth that especially to the Eagles whose true #1 receiver is also their #1 running back.

He is. Ignoring the fifth round pick because its a joke, Boldin is worth a first and third. At lesat, he should be to an offense that needs a really good receiver to function properly. As for the money, sure. If you're going to throw wads of cash at a guy coming off a horrible year because he might be good again, why not throw some at a receiver who has only had one bad year (statistically, anyway). And that bad year is still better than a good year by the receivers you already have.

ice grillin you · May 14, 2009, 01:17:45 PM

you also have to factor in your qb who basically has been the reason youve been better than most teams for the better part of a decade is nearing the end...so even if mack does turn into a good wr is it guaranteed that cobb will be a good qb...i mean if you wanna take a chance on all those things becoming a perfect storm in a few years thats fine....but we already know what mcnabb and boldin are and what they could bring this time in 2009...which is a superbowl

rjs246 · May 14, 2009, 01:19:17 PM

Superbowl is not the goal. More, cheaper players on the roster is the goal, as previously discussed.

General_Failure · May 14, 2009, 01:20:28 PM

To be fair, the odds are good that they'd still find a way to lose in the playoffs/SB, but at least you know it wouldn't be to Arizona.

General_Failure · May 14, 2009, 01:21:58 PM

Quote from: rjs246 on May 14, 2009, 01:19:17 PM
Superbowl is not the goal. More, cheaper players on the roster is the goal, as previously discussed.

Gocong introduced Jim Johnson to Starcraft while he was all doped up, and will try to include the Zerg rush defense this year.

Feva · May 14, 2009, 04:19:06 PM

Quote from: Rome on May 14, 2009, 12:31:08 PM
All this is well and good but the truth is Boldin's not worth a 1, 3 & 5 plus 10 million a year. I don't know if there's a receiver in the NFL who is worth that especially to the Eagles whose true #1 receiver is also their #1 running back.

A Super Bowl title is though... and you can't dispute that Boldin being an Eagle would've made their chances a lot better.

Like IGY said, you weigh Mack/*whoever*/Ingram or Boldin? Personally, I'm on board with the Boldin side.

Boldin would likely have been an even better option than TO in '04 because the surrounding WR's are so much better than they were then.

I honestly couldn't give 2 shteins about having to pay him $10 mil a year. It's not my money. I say give him $20 mil a year if it gets this team a SB.

I'm not upset about what they ended up with instead... because I think it's a pretty good backup plan. But that's exactly what I think Mack and the others are... a backup plan. Don't forget the fact that they didn't even expect to have a shot at drafting Mack so according to that logic... they were going to go ahead with Pimp and Curtis again at the top of the WR corps.

Rome · May 14, 2009, 04:50:43 PM

I'm not disputing the fact that Boldin would have made them better. Of course he would have under normal circumstances.
Take a moment and consider what is "normal" though.

1. A head coach who actually runs it enough to take the pressure off the QB and receivers. Do the Eagles have that? NOPE.

2. A head coach who wants a #1 receiver on the field to make the defense pay attention to him thereby freeing up other weapons on the field. Do the Eagles have that? NOPE.

3. A head coach, a team president, and a general manager who wouldn't think twice about spending the sort of money Boldin is looking for PLUS having to give up draft picks by the fist full to get him. Do the Eagles have any of those things? NOPE. NOPE. & NOPE.

Again - I'm not disputing that Boldin would have been a great pickup for most teams. Hell, he's a great player. But when you analyze how much he's asking for, how many picks it would take to get him, then factor in how the Eagles run their organization - any sane and rational person would come to the same conclusion - there's no way this team goes after him. No way, no how.

And one other thing... if someone told me that a receiver was the missing piece of the puzzle on this team between them winning a Super Bowl or not, I'd say look at the game they lost against the Cardinals last year and tell me they lost because of the receivers. They didn't. They lost because the defense couldn't stop Arizona from marching straight down the field after they scored to take the lead.