A Decade of Andy Reid

Started by PhillyPhreak54, July 19, 2008, 12:05:41 AM

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rjs246

Everyone who has ever watched football in this country knows that TOP is important. Apparently Andy Reid is also Canadian.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Tomahawk

Quote from: Cerevant on December 02, 2008, 12:08:52 PM
You guys are missing the point: did the Eagles win because AR was running the ball, or does Andy only run more when it looks like he is going to win the game?  Those stats support either possibility.  Anyone who watches the Eagles knows that the passing game gets more persistent and more desperate the further behind they are.

The Eagles have rarely, if ever, run the ball more with a lead. What was it 2001? 2000? First game of the season (I think) against the Titans. The Eagles would have won if Reid would have called run plays to kill the clock.

Nothing has changed with Reid in his entire tenure. Every season, it takes him until week 10 (week 8 at the absolute earliest) or so to remember running the ball helps win football games. Then he promptly forgets again.

General_Failure

How many of those games were from the Duce years? Reid has a chub for passing, but 52 games there says he knows about running the ball. I think the root of the problem may be that he doesn't trust his injury-prone star RB, or his even injury-proner backup. This being Andy Reid, of course there would be no correction to that problem by brining in quality players to fill those holes when there's square pegs and a hammer so close at hand.

The man. The myth. The legend.

Tomahawk

I don't know G_F, but it seems that the only time Reid ever dedicates to the run is when McNabb is not playing

Cerevant

Quote from: ice grillin you on December 02, 2008, 12:15:16 PM
lol at a canadian telling people they miss a point about pro football

EVERY team passes more the more they fall behind

No shtein junior.  It is a matter of relatives:
Steelers when ahead: 50% run.  when behind: 40% run
Eagles when ahead: 40% run.  when behind: 20% run

Quoteeveryone knows that you have to run the ball to win in the nfl and you definitely have to run the ball more than andy reid does...even people in maine know this

Again, no shtein junior.  If you paid attention, you would see that I was not saying that Andy was right.  I'm trying to tell you that this stat isn't going to convince Andy of anything.  Andy believes:
1) my game plan (singular) works
2) when it doesn't work, the players did not execute the game plan

As long as Reid is one of the winningest coaches (#3 in win percentage) in the NFL, he is not going to change the way he coaches.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

MadMarchHare

Not to nerd out further, but I think the sample size has covered both sides of the track (way ahead, way behind).

10 years of games in the NFL is probably enough to get a normalized distribution.
Anyone but Reid.

ice grillin you

Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 02, 2008, 03:06:12 PM
10 years of games in the NFL is probably enough to get a normalized distribution.

not in sault saint marie
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Rome

Look at the teams that win the Super Bowl and those that don't.

The ones that win always run the ball well and play ridiculous defense.  The Eagles don't run the ball and their defenses are usually prone to lapses against teams that run the ball well.

Reid's had 10 years to recognize the proverbial nose on his face and still refuses to change.

That's why he's gotta go. 

shorebird

Quote from: Rome on December 02, 2008, 04:39:57 PM
Look at the teams that win the Super Bowl and those that don't.

The ones that win always run the ball well and play ridiculous defense.  The Eagles don't run the ball and their defenses are usually prone to lapses against teams that run the ball well.

Reid's had 10 years to recognize the proverbial nose on his face and still refuses to change.

That's why he's gotta go.


Can ah' git' an Amaaaeeeen!!

Cerevant

Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 02, 2008, 03:06:12 PM
Not to nerd out further, but I think the sample size has covered both sides of the track (way ahead, way behind).

10 years of games in the NFL is probably enough to get a normalized distribution.

I'm not sure how a sample size can establish causality.  eg:
"Every time the leaves and branches of the trees move, the wind blows - So trees must cause the wind."

Quote from: shorebird on December 02, 2008, 04:52:52 PM
Quote from: Rome on December 02, 2008, 04:39:57 PM
Reid's had 10 years to recognize the proverbial nose on his face and still refuses to change.

That's why he's gotta go.

Can ah' git' an Amaaaeeeen!!

He needs to go, but you are a fool if you think he sees the problem himself:

Quote from: Cerevant on December 02, 2008, 02:58:51 PM
As long as Reid is one of the winningest coaches (#3 in win percentage) in the NFL, he is not going to change the way he coaches.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

shorebird

Quote from: Cerevant on December 02, 2008, 02:58:51 PM
As long as Reid is one of the winningest coaches (#3 in win percentage) in the NFL, he is not going to change the way he coaches.

That could be one reason, but another is just that he's plain hardheaded.

Rome

His winning percentage in the Super Bowl is 0.0.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Yeah, but you rounded down from 0.04.  Or something.

General_Failure

That one loss is a statistical anomaly and can be safely ignored.

The man. The myth. The legend.

Cerevant

Say what you will, but if Reid gets canned he will have a new HC job within a week.

The success of Dungy and Cowher will keep us stuck with Reid for years to come.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.