CF's Round by Round Opinions of the picks

Started by mussa, April 28, 2008, 10:56:55 AM

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mussa

I'm not really sure if this is needed, but going through all the threads not only angered me, but I had no idea what round who was taken and it's just a mess. I somewhat organized the picks and put forth my own worthless opinions based on the reports...and I am eagerly awaiting all your worthless opinions as well

2nd -Trevor Laws - Hopefully can step right in an help with d-line rotation.
2nd - DeSean Jackson - Much needed addition to return game. possible game breaking abilities in returning and at wide out. fav pick in years!
3rd - Brian Smith - Really tired of these picks...how many do we need. Prob makes the team on ST? Needs to add weight regardless
4th - Mike McGlynn - Is he Runyans replacement of the future? Prob not, but reports say he's got a nasty attitude and I like that in O-line, next to loose skin...
4th - Trade for Lorenzo Booker - From a team with zero returners to, 3-4. I'm sort of confused with this deal, but hey, another undersized RB I am okay with as long as he is used. Booker our future kick returner and DeSean our PR? Maybe DeSean will be that good a reciver where they wanted another good returner for insurance.
4th- Quintin Demps - Like this pick. Possible return skills as well. Reports all sound good on him, and to have Dawk teaching him is only an added bonus for him.
4th - Jack Ikegwuonu - seems like he got all the skills, sounds like he needs to grow up. maybe covert to FS? Gamble, but a nice gamble IMO. Hoping for a speedy recovery and a swift kick to the balls to get his shtein together
6th - Mike Gibson - slight chance of making the team...him and Scott Young will suck it up. needs to hit the cheeseburgers, light for a NFL G
6th - Joe Mays - hopefully slides in as a ST hitter
6th - Andy Studenbaker - won't make team
7th - King Dunlap - won't make team
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Zanshin

I have no idea how these guys will pan out over the next couple of years. 

That said, I love getting the extra first rounder next year.  And I really like that they picked two guys at the top who have an actual chance at making a serious contribution to the team this year.  I also like the deal for Lorenzo booker.  I have a good feeling about Demps, but that's really all it is.

Everything else is a huge question mark.

Rome

laws - future starter.  a pick.

jackson - immediate contributer in the return game.  after last year's fiascos this gets an  a+ pick.

smith - not thrilled with this especially since they could have taken dajuan morgan here.  c pick.

mcglynn - possible starter in the future.  not crazy about it, though.  b- pick.

booker pickup - great potential here. excellent value for a fourth rounder.   a pick

demps - i liked this one a lot especially since wagner was passed up.  b+

ikeguonu - not crazy about it but getting a 1st/2nd round talent in the fourth isn't bad even if he won't play in '08.  solid b here.

gibson, mays, studebaker & dunlop are all practice squad guys.  no steals here and several reaches.  overall c- grade for the four picks.


overall draft grade i'd give a "b+" because laws, jackson & booker will make an immediate impact on a team that had all 22 starters set before the draft began.

SD_Eagle5

There's an article in the Daily News today where Reid says the Eagles got 3 players that can contribute next season. Seems to be met with some criticism but is there any doubt Laws will play on D, Jackson will at least get some catches and his impact on ST should be immense, and Booker is a bit of an unknown but he's versitle as a receiver and RB.
If the Eagles had drafted Jackson at 19 and Laws in the 2nd no one would be as critical. I believe the only reason people are mad is because they traded out of the 1st round. Otah would have been a bad pick. Anyways I don't know much about any of the second day guys except for what I read and what the experts say so being critical is dumb. The only problem I have is with the amount of picks, I mean...package some of the 4ths and 6ths and move up or get picks for next season.

Rome

they traded cleveland's 6th for a 5th next year.  the compensatory picks can't be traded, so they had to take someone in those slots.

ice grillin you

1st - trade was by far better than anyone they could have taken in the first round...i might root against carolina as much as i do for the eagles next year

2nd - trevor laws - bleh...should have taken one of the wr's that was still around (kelly or sweed) or calais campbell would have been a nice pick here

2nd - pimp d - is there a team in the nfl that upgraded a position better than the eagles did at return man

3rd - brian smith - this guy is too small to even play linebacker in the league and yet andy claims he gonna play end...way too high for him here

4th - lorenzo booker - i like this move quite a bit...reminds of a less stout brian westbrook...i loved this guy in college and he has some sick moves...you can never have enough talent at the skill positions and he upgrades that area quite a bit

4th - mike mcglynn - todd herremans days are obviously numbered and i suppose even as a rookie this cat will be "in the mix" for the job this summer

4th - quintin demps - love this pick....yet another good athlete...quintins on his way....

4th - jack ikegwuono - with numerous 4th round picks why not take this guy...i think hes a safety not a corner in the league and will have to put on some weight to pull that off but love the fact that hes a huge hitter while demps is the more athletic guy tha can run around...they covered all basis at safety with these two guys...lets hope they pan out better than cj gaddis

6th - mike gibson - practice squad and hit the weight room for a year then get "in the mix" next year at OG

6th - joe mays - what a friggin beast...i wish there was a bunkley like combine photo of this guy...his upper body is ridiculous...could be a phenominal special teamer...ultimate wedge buster

6th - andy studenbaker - who?

7th - king dunlap - first cuts
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SD_Eagle5

Quote from: Rome on April 28, 2008, 11:12:19 AM
they traded cleveland's 6th for a 5th next year.  the compensatory picks can't be traded, so they had to take someone in those slots.

They took 9 players yesterday. 9. How many of those picks actually make the team? I'll set the o/u at 4 considering Ikewhateverhisnameis gets sent to the IR.

ice grillin you

Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 28, 2008, 11:08:53 AM
There's an article in the Daily News today where Reid says the Eagles got 3 players that can contribute next season. Seems to be met with some criticism but is there any doubt Laws will play on D, Jackson will at least get some catches and his impact on ST


just because you play next year doesnt mean you should be
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rjs246

Here's my fire and brimstone:

First round trade - Whether they keep it or use it as a bargaining chip that extra 1 next year is real nice. A.
Laws - I'm going to give this a B. This was a position of need and the kid was ridiculously productive in college against good competition.
Jackson - A.
Smith - I obviously don't know shtein about this kid. Seems like a typical Andy Reid reach. Who knows what to expect. C.
McGlynn - I like this pick because eveyone says he is able to play the entire line and has the ability to step in at RT when Runyan dies of old age.  B.
Booker pickup - Was productive with minimal touches on a terrible team last year. Can obviously be useful to the offense and may be able to return kicks which is good. Worries about his wardrobe too much. F.
Demps - This was my second favorite pick of the draft.  Dude has tons of athleticism and was really productive. B+.
Ikeguonu - He won't do shtein this year and has an extensive injury history but lots and lots of talent. It's impossible to grade this. C.
Gibson - Project. D.
Mays - Will help on special teams and shtein. C+
Studebaker - Whatever. F.
Trade to Browns - Excellent. They should have done more of this. B.
Dunlap - Dude doesn't give a lot of effort and isn't in shape and lost his starting job as a senior. D-

It seems likely that Ikeguounu will be IR'ed while Gibson, Studebaker and Dunlap just get cut. So I see 6 of these clowns making the team right now.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

ice grillin you

by all accounts mcglynn can not be an offensive tackle in the nfl
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Rome

i don't know why but your characterization of them as clowns had me rollin'.

rjs246

well you and I are obviously reading different scouting reports. Or maybe the report I read was about another of the myriad OLs that they drafted. Either way, I'm right.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

PoopyfaceMcGee

2nd -Trevor Laws - None of the film is particularly impressive.  He seems fine, but his "ceiling" isn't too high.  Hopefully, he'll be either an average starter or a good 3rd DT long-term, but that's about the best possible scenario.
2nd - DeSean Jackson - BONERS.  For return value alone, he's a great pick.  All production on offense is an absolute bonus (but I expect some).
3rd - Brian Smith - I like athletic guys that can get after the QB - as long as that's what Jim Johnson's actually going to use him for.  Gocong was great at getting at the QB, so they drafted him in the 3rd round to cover tight ends.  Dumb.  As long as they use Smith as a pass rusher, this pick could be good.
4th - Mike McGlynn - He passes the look test.  Could play RT or LG down the line or be the 6th OL.  I like the pick.
4th - Trade for Lorenzo Booker - So, apparently this guy isn't really into returning.  The Eagles got him to use him on offense.  I suppose I like it every bit as much as anyone they would have selected with the pick.
4th- Quintin Demps - This is my 2nd favorite pick of the draft, easily.  A secondary with guys that have instincts and skills toward making big plays is exactly something the Eagles have been missing out on.  With all due respect to the "safe" guys like Sheldon Brown and whoever's playing opposite Dawkins, I want guys that are a threat to step in front of any route and take it back for 6.
4th - Jack Ikegwuonu - As I said yesterday, this is a great pick, because it's basically the equivalent of trading this year's 4th for a 2009 2nd.
6th - Mike Gibson - Meh.  I would rather use these picks on high ceiling guys.  This kid will never contribute to the team in any meaningful way... except maybe to edge Scott Young out of a roster spot.  Still, meh.
6th - Joe Mays - Fine.  Good pick for the 6th.  Probably won't make team, but if he does, could contribute on special teams.  Best-case is that he could be a two down backup MLB.
6th - Andy Studebaker - They're trying to do with this kid exactly what they did to Gocong.  He was a great DE against crappy competition, so they're drafting him to play LB.  Super.  That said, at least they only used a 6th on him.  He will probably languish on the PS at best this year.
7th - King Dunlap - Good pick for the last round.  He has/had a lot of potential and sucked ass this season.  Did he have a nagging injury?  Is it a lack of motivation?  Did his grandmammy die?  What do I know?  Either way, he passes the look test for a LT.  While he probably won't be any good, he has a CHANCE to be a diamond in the rough.  That's all I can ask from the 7th.

I give the draft a solid B.  It would clearly be a C without snagging Jackson and trading for Booker.  It would be D at best if they didn't get Jackson and also traded away Lito for peanuts.

ice grillin you

Quote from: rjs246 on April 28, 2008, 11:35:40 AM
well you and I are obviously reading different scouting reports. Or maybe the report I read was about another of the myriad OLs that they drafted. Either way, I'm right.


check his videos...hes unbelievably slow and has terrible feet...unless you really hate their qb pray the eagles dont ever put this guy against any outside speed rushers
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Day 1 - Laws, Jackson, aquired Booker, raped Carolina = A

Day 2 - Demps and Igownkdownsodiens are solid pickups but I would have prefered Morgan over Demps.  McGlynn could be nice depth this year....who knows if he'll be a solid starter though.  Smith was not only a reach in the 3rd round, it was a wasted pick.  Everyone else is mostly fodder.  Overall = C+

Overall grade = B  

Eagles didn't get nearly as much value out of day 2 as I think they could have......either with smarter drafting or packaging a few of their (non-compensatory) picks for improved positioning this year or even next.