Samuel apparently IS at the Novacare complex...aka Free Agent thread

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Sgt PSN

Quote from: Philly Crew on March 03, 2008, 09:31:36 AM
Anyone think the Eagles just keep Lito if they can't get a sufficient draft pick for him?  They hold the cards since he is signed through 2011.  He could be our answer as KR/PR since we could put him back there since he isn't a starting corner.  He would give great depth and probably the best 3rd CB in the league.

In a way, I'd really be pissed if that's what ends up happening because it basically means that the biggest FA signing was basically to give this team a 3rd corner.  Not to mention that I'm pretty certain Tito wouldn't take the demotion too well either.  The Eagles would probably say something to the affect of "hey, you're the highest paid nickle back in the league." 

Wingspan

Even after 3 days...I am still amazed that people would be pissed off to have 3 pro bowl caliber corners. Especially 1 year after everyone bitched about losing Rod Hood.
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pinoyboy2pt0

I see the Lions got CB Bodden in that swap for Rogers, you think that makes the Roy for Lito plus picks chances go down a little?
Pass.  Pass. Pass. PUNT.  No pro bowl WR's.  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  Retarded special teams.  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  "I've got to do a better job."  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  Running game shines for 3 plays. Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  No adjustments anywhere.  Pass.  Pass. Pass. PUNT.  (repeat)

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Wingspan on March 03, 2008, 09:52:39 AM
Even after 3 days...I am still amazed that people would be pissed off to have 3 pro bowl caliber corners. Especially 1 year after everyone bitched about losing Rod Hood.

No one of intelligence or insight is pissed about it.

I'd rather keep Lito than trade him for very little value.  But the best option, all factors considered, is to trade him for an exceptional player that needs a change of scenery.  Preferably a WR.

Feva

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Zanshin

Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 03, 2008, 09:50:24 AM
Quote from: Philly Crew on March 03, 2008, 09:31:36 AM
Anyone think the Eagles just keep Lito if they can't get a sufficient draft pick for him?  They hold the cards since he is signed through 2011.  He could be our answer as KR/PR since we could put him back there since he isn't a starting corner.  He would give great depth and probably the best 3rd CB in the league.

In a way, I'd really be pissed if that's what ends up happening because it basically means that the biggest FA signing was basically to give this team a 3rd corner.  Not to mention that I'm pretty certain Tito wouldn't take the demotion too well either.  The Eagles would probably say something to the affect of "hey, you're the highest paid nickle back in the league." 

While not ideal, it wouldn't be the end of the world...because even though corner wasn't a need of WR proportions, it was certainly a need.  Every time James and/or Hanson got on the field, it was like an adventure in hoping for the best.  I'd love for them to be able to fill multiple needs via the Samuel signing...but if they can calm Lito down and get him to play, having three solid corners really isn't a bad thing.

Rome

QuoteEvery time James and/or Hanson got on the field, it was like an adventure in hoping for the best.

This.

BigEd76

Quote from: Templeton Peck on March 03, 2008, 07:51:23 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 03, 2008, 07:48:44 AM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 03, 2008, 07:45:22 AMwhat is a TATER?

Seriously? 

Talk About The Eagles section on the EMB. 

wow, never knew thats what TATE meant, i just thought it was slang for retards.  I've never gone on the EMB, so im lucky. 


it's on wiki

PoopyfaceMcGee

I disagree about Hanson.  He's been a very good player.  He's certainly an adequate nickel corner and would be a phenominal dime corner.

Still, the Eagles aren't so deep at CB that trading Lito for "whatever they can get" makes any sense.

PhillyGirl

Quote from: FastFreddie on March 03, 2008, 10:10:21 AM
I disagree about Hanson.  He's been a very good player.  He's certainly an adequate nickel corner and would be a phenominal dime corner.

Still, the Eagles aren't so deep at CB that trading Lito for "whatever they can get" makes any sense.

I pretty much agree with this 100%.

James is NOTHING like Hanson. James was supposed to compete for a starting job. Hanson is a solid nickel/dime and made some VERY good plays when in there. I thought he was pretty consistently solid all season when needed. No one wants to see him as a starter, but that's not what we're talking about here.
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Rome

I don't think Lito will be here when the season starts but if he is I couldn't think of a better situation for the secondary to be in.  If he doesn't pout like a flag and actually manages to stay healthy the Eagles would have the best secondary in the NFC by far.

As for Hanson, I don't have a problem with him specifically and he's certainly no Will Peterson, but the thought of him being a long term starter isn't acceptable to me at all, and that's exactly what would happen if one of the big three went down.  I can't believe that would be acceptable to anyone, actually.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: Zanshin on March 03, 2008, 10:01:11 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 03, 2008, 09:50:24 AM
Quote from: Philly Crew on March 03, 2008, 09:31:36 AM
Anyone think the Eagles just keep Lito if they can't get a sufficient draft pick for him?  They hold the cards since he is signed through 2011.  He could be our answer as KR/PR since we could put him back there since he isn't a starting corner.  He would give great depth and probably the best 3rd CB in the league.

In a way, I'd really be pissed if that's what ends up happening because it basically means that the biggest FA signing was basically to give this team a 3rd corner.  Not to mention that I'm pretty certain Tito wouldn't take the demotion too well either.  The Eagles would probably say something to the affect of "hey, you're the highest paid nickle back in the league." 

While not ideal, it wouldn't be the end of the world...because even though corner wasn't a need of WR proportions, it was certainly a need.  Every time James and/or Hanson got on the field, it was like an adventure in hoping for the best.  I'd love for them to be able to fill multiple needs via the Samuel signing...but if they can calm Lito down and get him to play, having three solid corners really isn't a bad thing.

Don't get me wrong, Sheldon/Lito/Samuel as the corners is a farging wet dream of a nickle package.  I just think that if that's what ends up happening, it lessens the impact of bringing in Samuel.  Not to mention that it doesn't make Lito any happier about his situation.  Granted, I think he's being rediculous but that's neither here nor there.  The point is that the Eagles have an unhappy player on their hands who probably won't take a demotion all that well on top of everything.  

Rome

QuoteQuote of the Week II

"I just want to be able to win and get back to the Super Bowl.''

--Philadelphia cornerback Asante Samuel, who got $20 million guaranteed in a six-year, $57 million contract with the Eagles on Friday.

If that's what was most important, then why didn't Samuel stay with New England? Does he, or his agents, really think the Eagles have a better shot to get back to the Super Bowl than the Patriots in the next two or three years?

"I just want to be able to win and get back to the Super Bowl.''

You know what I want? I want one of these guys, just once, to say, "You know, I do want to win, but facts are facts. The Patriots were only going to pay me $6 million a year. The Eagles went to $9.5M a year. Do I look that stupid to turn down all that money?'' But no. We have to hear this phony stuff about how players sign with lesser teams because they really want to win. Save us.

Peter King's at it again.  His precious Patriots lose someone and he takes it as a personal affront.

:-D

Feva

Quote from: Zanshin on March 03, 2008, 10:01:11 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 03, 2008, 09:50:24 AM
Quote from: Philly Crew on March 03, 2008, 09:31:36 AM
Anyone think the Eagles just keep Lito if they can't get a sufficient draft pick for him?  They hold the cards since he is signed through 2011.  He could be our answer as KR/PR since we could put him back there since he isn't a starting corner.  He would give great depth and probably the best 3rd CB in the league.

In a way, I'd really be pissed if that's what ends up happening because it basically means that the biggest FA signing was basically to give this team a 3rd corner.  Not to mention that I'm pretty certain Tito wouldn't take the demotion too well either.  The Eagles would probably say something to the affect of "hey, you're the highest paid nickle back in the league." 

While not ideal, it wouldn't be the end of the world...because even though corner wasn't a need of WR proportions, it was certainly a need.  Every time James and/or Hanson got on the field, it was like an adventure in hoping for the best.  I'd love for them to be able to fill multiple needs via the Samuel signing...but if they can calm Lito down and get him to play, having three solid corners really isn't a bad thing.

I agree it won't be the end of the world as it would be an incredible set of CB's... but if Lito stays then the Eagles basically spent $57 mil to upgrade their nickel DB.

And I agree with FF that Hanson was far from a liability last season.  He showed a lot of improvement from the season before... and I thought he was pretty damn solid as a nickel DB.  Lito staying would be more insurance against him being a starter but again... they spent $57 mil for that.
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