Samuel apparently IS at the Novacare complex...aka Free Agent thread

Started by SD_Eagle5, February 28, 2008, 10:06:47 PM

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SunMo

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 28, 2008, 11:34:01 PM
Huff or Samuel, either would be great.

Samuel will be a good signing; there is no negative in bringing him in.

Assuming they do.

well, he does eat babies
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Magical_Retard

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 28, 2008, 11:34:01 PM
Huff or Samuel, either would be great.

Samuel will be a good signing; there is no negative in bringing him in.

Assuming they do.

no negative in bringing him in but the fear is that they would stop at this signing and call it a day. claim to have WON free agency and then continue to tell us the fans how amazing they the FO are throughout the off season.
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PhillyPhanInDC

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 28, 2008, 11:34:01 PM
Huff or Samuel, either would be great.

Samuel will be a good signing; there is no negative in bringing him in.

Assuming they do.

I disagree. Say they bring in Samuel, and they can't unload Lito. Lito gets hot, and holds out, bitches and complains, and forces his way out of town, and the Birds get dick for him. That's pretty negative.

The pipedream of getting Samuel and trading Lito to improve something else is far-fetched, and depends on a lot of shtein outside the FO's control to happen.

The speculation they already have something in place with Lito is B.S. They've had plenty of time to work that out, and haven't. Why would they wait until after FA starts to get the trade done?
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PhillyGirl

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reese125

Quote from: Templeton Peck on February 28, 2008, 11:35:09 PM
GET Samuel, trade for Huff, Move Lito for Fitz...super boners....

But i expect we'll just end up with DJ Hackett

Yeah, Ive been thinking that for a while just because of the West Coast. Tampa supposedly has the biggest interest him

If they have to settle with Hackett because the other WR's are sealed up, Im completely fine with that.

I like him alot--nice red zone WR--which the Birds sorely lacked last season

PhillyPhanInDC

Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 28, 2008, 11:39:19 PM
I meant a deal in place for Lito being TRADED.  ::)

I understood that. If they had a deal in place FOR HIM TO BE TRADED, why wait to pull the trigger? To play coy?

::)
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PhillyGirl

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SunMo

Quote from: PPinDC on February 28, 2008, 11:43:34 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 28, 2008, 11:39:19 PM
I meant a deal in place for Lito being TRADED.  ::)

I understood that. If they had a deal in place FOR HIM TO BE TRADED, why wait to pull the trigger? To play coy?

::)

why would you trade Lito before you know you had Samuel locked up?
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Sun....I was starting to wonder if I was not thinking clearly. LOL
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PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: PPinDC on February 28, 2008, 11:43:34 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 28, 2008, 11:39:19 PM
I meant a deal in place for Lito being TRADED.  ::)

I understood that. If they had a deal in place FOR HIM TO BE TRADED, why wait to pull the trigger? To play coy?

::)

Because they have to wait until it is okay to make trades.

Signing Samuel benefits this defense. But like IGY said, they do need DE help too for this to work. Killa needs a LDE to help him out.

PhillyPhanInDC

Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 28, 2008, 11:44:25 PM
To make sure they get Samuel.  :sly

Quote from: SunMo on February 28, 2008, 11:45:09 PM
Quote from: PPinDC on February 28, 2008, 11:43:34 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 28, 2008, 11:39:19 PM
I meant a deal in place for Lito being TRADED.  ::)

I am a giant douche.

::)

why would you trade Lito before you know you had Samuel locked up?

Obviously. I'll have another beer before bed.

My point is, dealing Lito isn't a guarantee by any stretch. CB is not only NOT a glaring need on the team, by possibly signing and paying one in FA to be the highest paid at the position can potentially fracture the locker room - if they can't work a deal with Lito in it.
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The BIGSTUD

Quote from: PPinDC on February 28, 2008, 11:27:10 PM
I can see how this is going to play out. Samuel is the biggest name in this year's FA period (I still think Briggs is the best available player overall), and if the Eagles get him, the vast majority will hail it as a coup for the FO. The FO will look at it as a major overall improvement, and do miminal stuff between now and the draft. No significant upgrade at DE, no significant upgrade at WR. If they pimped Chris Cocong to be the second coming at strong-side, a position he never played prior to last year, selling Abiamiri as a guy that should "step-up" and be as good as Kearse in his prime shouldn't be a harder sell.


I don't want Samuel. They would need  to be able to unload Lito to make it all work, and that is a big damn if.

Grab Odom, Cartwright, and then try to work a WR upgrade. Draft a DB/S, and maybe grab a second tier FA DB for nickel. That won't be as flashy, but it would sit fine with me.

That is signing names just for the sake of signing names. Odom sucks.
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SunMo

Quote from: PPinDC on February 28, 2008, 11:53:10 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 28, 2008, 11:44:25 PM
To make sure they get Samuel.  :sly

Quote from: SunMo on February 28, 2008, 11:45:09 PM
Quote from: PPinDC on February 28, 2008, 11:43:34 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 28, 2008, 11:39:19 PM
I meant a deal in place for Lito being TRADED.  ::)

I understood that. If they had a deal in place FOR HIM TO BE TRADED, why wait to pull the trigger? To play coy?

::)

why would you trade Lito before you know you had Samuel locked up?

Obviously. I'll have another beer before bed.

My point is, dealing Lito isn't a guarantee by any stretch. CB is not only NOT a glaring need on the team, by possibly signing and paying one in FA to be the highest paid at the position can potentially fracture the locker room - if they can work a deal with Lito in it.

that's why i say i like this move with the caveat that it leads to them getting Fitz or Williams.  if it doesn't i believe it's a waste of resources
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QB Eagles

Quote from: SunMo on February 28, 2008, 11:35:44 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 28, 2008, 11:34:01 PM
Huff or Samuel, either would be great.

Samuel will be a good signing; there is no negative in bringing him in.

Assuming they do.

well, he does eat babies

That's a negative?  :paranoid

PhillyGirl

Quote from: SunMo on February 28, 2008, 11:54:20 PM
that's why i say i like this move with the caveat that it leads to them getting Fitz or Williams.  if it doesn't i believe it's a waste of resources

yeah. that.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen