eagles franchise LJ

[Eagaholic]

It certainly warrants questioning.  He's going to get paid the avg salary of the top 5 TE's in the league, which he most certainly isn't.  But when you look at the big picture, it was still the right move to make. 

Correct me if I am worng, but this average salary does not include Signing Bonuses, which is obviously a huge part of a players money, so in some situations it can be a discount.

Good point, and that very well may be the case.  So if we're talking about base salaries, then it certainly takes the sting out of it. 

Good thinking. 

Agree good point. Also the player wouldn't have any of the other incentives and bonuses players often have. Maybe that's a reason why a player gets a 20% increase for each year he is re-tagged, to compensate for other lost money.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

The amount actually does include signing bonuses.  The franchise amount is actually the average of the top 5 cap commitments of players at the position, not just the base salaries.

[Sgt PSN]

In that case, I'm back to kind of hating this. 

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Would you like it more if I told you that LJ likes you personally?  I mean... likes you likes you, not just likes you.

[ice grillin you]

In that case, I'm back to kind of hating this. 

lol...either you hated paying him 4.5 mil for one year or you didnt....why hes getting paid that much is irrelevant isnt it

[Sgt PSN]

Would you like it more if I told you that LJ likes you personally?  I mean... likes you likes you, not just likes you.

Why?  Have you heard something? 

[Rome]

$4.5M for a starting tight end of L.J.'s caliber is nothing especially considering the Eagles have plenty of room under the 2008 cap.

It's for this year and nothing else.  Again, where is the problem?  It's just money and it's just one year.  There is no down side unless he gets injured again.  If that's the case then it's one and done and sayonara.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Would you like it more if I told you that LJ likes you personally?  I mean... likes you likes you, not just likes you.

Why?  Have you heard something? 

I can neither confirm nor deny.

[ice grillin you]

$4.5M for a starting tight end of L.J.'s caliber is nothing especially considering the Eagles have plenty of room under the 2008 cap.

It's for this year and nothing else.  Again, where is the problem?  It's just money and it's just one year.  There is no down side unless he gets injured again.  If that's the case then it's one and done and sayonara.

he wont even be in the top five highest paid eagles this year

[Sgt PSN]

In that case, I'm back to kind of hating this. 

lol...either you hated paying him 4.5 mil for one year or you didnt....why hes getting paid that much is irrelevant isnt it

No dum-dum, you're not following.  I've said from the beginning that I didn't like the Eagles paying him the avg salary of the top 5 TE's.  He's not worth it.  But when methdeez said that he thought the salary was limited to base salary average not including bonuses, I said that it doesn't sting as much.  

The actual dollar amount is irrelevant to me.  Under the franchise tag, he's getting overpaid and isn't exactly worth overpaying (at least not what he'll be making).  Of course, if the Eagles are able to strike a longterm deal with him and pay him something a lot closer to what he's worth, then I'm fine with that.  

I just think it's funny that the Eagles are so quick to dramatically overpay LJ yet they won't even think about paying market value to talented recievers or linebackers.  

[Rome]

Sassy... you're looking at this wrong...



The cap will be $116M +/- this season.  If L.J. makes $4.5M that's 3.8% of the total figure.

That's nothing in the grand scheme of things.  Who gives a farg if he's overpaid in terms of other players?  Other players are getting paid like that but they're also getting huge bonuses to sign and teams are attaching themselves to those players for years at a time. 

[Sgt PSN]

Sassy... you're looking at this wrong...



The cap will be $116M +/- this season.  If L.J. makes $4.5M that's 3.8% of the total figure.

That's nothing in the grand scheme of things.  Who gives a farg if he's overpaid in terms of other players?  Other players are getting paid like that but they're also getting huge bonuses to sign and teams are attaching themselves to those players for years at a time. 

I'm not attached to the $ figure or how it affects the cap.  I know it's a low risk/high reward opportunity.  Alls I'm saying is that the Eagles are willing to overpay for an above average TE but they're extreme tight wads when it comes to other positions of need.  It just doesn't make much sense.  Why over pay for a player who hasn't heavily figured into the offense over the last few years?  Just taking a stab in the dark here but I'm guessing that Smith has contributed about as many total yards as Buck and probably less touchdowns. 

They've got the tag and LJ is the "most worthy" person they've got to use it on.  LJ's happy he's getting more money and it gives the Eagles more time to work out a long term deal with him at a fair price.  And if they manage to work that out then it would be money well spent.   I'm not up in arms pissed about this.  But I am questioning it a little bit.   

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Adam Eaton will still make roughly twice what L.J. will make this year.

[methdeez]

Adam Eaton will still make roughly twice what L.J. will make this year.

When are we going to franchise Buckhalter?
If that guy hits the open market, watch out!

[PhillyPhreak54]

The bottom line here is this;

For this offense to thrive, and for Donovan to be at his best, a competent TE is needed. I've got my beefs with LJ and towards the end of the year I wouldnt have been sad to see him go. But he's better than whats out there, he's got one year at a cheap salary to prove himself and quite honestly, they need him.

His salary is chump change and it is not a long term deal.

I'd be more pissed if they would have let him go and then been forced to sign a bum like Visanthe Shiancoe to a crazy ass deal just to cover their ass at the position.