McNabb, Feeley, or Kolb

Started by Phillyiggles_fan, November 26, 2007, 08:12:50 AM

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reese125

and check to see how many holding penalties we got. I think it was zero (?).

You get rid of it on time, less chance of holding penalties, less 3 and outs, move the football more, score. See how easy?

Rome

We are so conditioned to McNabb's dink and dunk bullshtein that we see Feeley's performance as some sort of epiphany.  Fact is Feeley ran the offense the way it's supposed to be run and we all saw the results.

PS: Three #1's for McNabb?  Bahahaha!  Right.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Well, just think.... a #1 pick can turn into a dead guy in only a few short years anyway.

Munson

Quote from: FastFreddie on November 27, 2007, 03:25:40 PM
Well, just think.... a #1 pick can turn into a dead guy in only a few short years anyway.

Hahaha that's farging terrible. :-D
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Magical_Retard

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 27, 2007, 03:23:11 PM
We are so conditioned to McNabb's dink and dunk bullshtein that we see Feeley's performance as some sort of epiphany.  Fact is Feeley ran the offense the way it's supposed to be run and we all saw the results.

PS: Three #1's for McNabb?  Bahahaha!  Right.

i dnot know why picks are so highly valued these days. 4rth round for moss? 2nd round for owens? and these guys were not some unknowns. most ppl would give a 1st round pick now to get these players esp if the team was on the verge and needed that one player to propel them.

most teams waste many drafts and #1 picks on QBs who never develop. mcnabb might not be manning or brady but if he can return back to form he would be worth a #1 pick.

of course in todays football world mcnabb would most likely go for a 3rd round pick.
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Eaglez

It just seems that everytime McNabb goes out the WRs all of a sudden come alive.  Reggie Brown had a great last half of the season with Garcia at the helm and all the WRs and TEs were involved against the Pats.  Granted, the WR corps isn't the best in the league, but they put up numbers against a pretty good D.  Greg F'n Lewis had two TD grabs; and nice ones too.  It just seems like everyone tries that much harder with Feeley or any backup for that matter, because it seems like they know that if they get at least some separation Feeley will find them and give them the opportunity to make a play.

1st round picks aren't worth much with the Eagles track record.   

Diomedes

Quote from: FastFreddie on November 27, 2007, 10:29:52 AM
Feeley's timing, reads, and accuracy were better than McNabb is capable of most of the game.

If nothing else, he's earned the right to start until McNabb's ankle and thumb are completed healed.

Completely agree.  And I'd say his touch is better, too...though obviously not on the long ball.  Short and intermediate, he's got better touch.  Of course, I say that based on one game, which is not a good sample.  If you broaden the sample to all of his time with the Eagles, I'd still contend this...but if you add his year in Miami or what little he did in SD, then I don't know...

I think Zanshin's comments at the top of this page are dead on from FO/Reid's perspective.

Quote from: reese125 on November 27, 2007, 01:25:18 PM
and check to see how many holding penalties we got. I think it was zero (?).

You get rid of it on time, less chance of holding penalties,...

I couldn't help but notice that several excellent completions Sunday night occured because Feeley stood in for the hit in order to make the throw.  He was planting well and getting good throws off, then getting nailed.  If he's better than Mcnabb at reading the field, then it only helps that he's also better at sticking around to make the throw.  I think most of the time McNabb will try to juke around the hit, or take off to the sideline before sending a bullet into the ground two feet in front of Westbrook.  Obviously, if you can read, get rid of the ball quickly, and take the occasional hit in order to do so, you're going to be better in the WCO.  Hell, in any.

You're also going to give the O Line a break by not dragging plays on, the team a break by not getting sacked for 8 yard losses while you boondoggle around backfield, etc.

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Rome

QuoteObviously, if you can read, get rid of the ball quickly, and take the occasional hit in order to do so, you're going to be better in the WCO.

McNabb could never do the first two very well and now seems reluctant to take a shot.  I can't say I blame him because after 10 years of getting my meatcicle knocked in the dirt I'd be equally as twitchy back there.

shorebird

Quote from: Zanshin on November 27, 2007, 11:59:14 AM
McNabb needs to start, whether the Eagles want to move forward with him or not. 

I've been McNabb's biggest supporter on this board, but after this year and all the things that have gone on, it wouldn't hurt my feelings if he never lined up under center for this team again. A career backup just lead our team to a three pt. game against the best team in the league, and possibly one of the best of all time. Yes, he threw three int's, but that will happen when you haven't played in a while.

After hearing McNabb cry about being a black qb, saying it's not all his fault after a loss and basically sounding like a 5 yr. old pissing his teammates off, I'm about done with him. Just shut the farg up and play already. He's a often injured shell of his former self, his mechanics are so screwed up he might not ever get right again, and even if he does, it seems his time here is done and he's just about worn out his welcome.

Feeley taking the blame for the Pats loss after Reid wasted that last possesion showed me he has more guts in his little finger than McNabb has in his entire body.

Magical_Retard

well besides feeley a lot of starting "good" QBs have had a chance against the pats and have failed. so i wouldnt put feeley up there for his one game performance.

if he starts this week or plays a string of games like he did this past sunday then i would believe in him.

BTW shorebird how did mcnabb piss him teammates off by saying its not all his fault? did some player mention something?
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rjs246

Quote from: shorebird on November 28, 2007, 06:49:57 AM
Feeley taking the blame for the Pats loss after Reid wasted that last possesion showed me he has more guts in his little finger than McNabb has in his entire body.

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reese125

Quote from: Magical_Retard on November 28, 2007, 07:21:44 AM
well besides feeley a lot of starting "good" QBs have had a chance against the pats and have failed. so i wouldnt put feeley up there for his one game performance.

if he starts this week or plays a string of games like he did this past sunday then i would believe in him.

BTW shorebird how did mcnabb piss him teammates off by saying its not all his fault? did some player mention something?

I think it was posted in another thread. Sheldon Brown (?) was quoted praising AJ for putting the loss on his shoulders and showing true leadership. Thats an indirect shot if you ask me

Magical_Retard

or reading too much into it. whats sheldon supposed to say "he showed true leadership just like mcnabb does". i never want to get into reading into what these guys say and mean cause most of the time they are trying to say the same things. wasnt sheldon also the guy who said there is a double standard about players being suspended while coaches (like reid with his kids) do not get any punishment or looked into. that was much more a direct shot than saying "oh AJ took leadership by blaming himself".

besides i doubt anything AJ did affected the defense.
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ice grillin you

Quote from: Magical_Retard on November 28, 2007, 09:42:54 AM
or reading too much into it. whats sheldon supposed to say "he showed true leadership just like mcnabb does". i never want to get into reading into what these guys say and mean cause most of the time they are trying to say the same things. wasnt sheldon also the guy who said there is a double standard about players being suspended while coaches (like reid with his kids) do not get any punishment or looked into. that was much more a direct shot than saying "oh AJ took leadership by blaming himself".

besides i doubt anything AJ did affected the defense.


we got shorebird on the team now we have to get the last of the mcnabb lapdogs MR...come on buddy put on your funny hat and join the club
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Magical_Retard

yeah ok dude. if this team had a actual plan besides rebuilding with reid at the helm i would be on board.

my fear is that they get rid of mcnabb, build around feeley and result in the same dissapointment yr after yr. one good performance out of feeley will not change my mind. thats why i said i need to see a string of good games.

and i would definetly never get into reading into what these guys say and what they mean and how they feel and if they laugh it means they are soft or if there is towel on thier head it means they are pouting.

listening to the radio here NYC killing eli it just sounds hilarious how they blast him for the way his face looks after he makes a mistake. i think ppl like that have a serious problem. eli can not help it if he is ugly and looks dumb on the sidelines. i do not judge players based on how facial expressions or if they are a rah rah guy. thats exactly the type of critic you are. when mcnabb wins a game its in spite of him the team won. when he loses a game its because hes weak.

who knows maybe sheldon did throw a indirect shot but if he meant what ppl think he meant then he should just come out and say it or just keep shut. i think most of these guys are morons who usually deliver rehearsed responses.
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