Dolphins @ Eagles Game Thread

Started by SD_Eagle5, November 18, 2007, 11:47:31 AM

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Munson

Quote from: BigEd76 on November 18, 2007, 08:13:00 PM
Draft a safety, sign Terrell Suggs, trade for Larry Fitzgerald, run the ball.  Super Bowl.  :P

Fixed.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

QB Eagles

- McNabb and Feeley's combined QB rating for the first half was 2.5

- Westbrook had 0 yards receiving. Tough to imagine him getting to 1000/1000.

- Thankfully, William James did not play.

Munson

Quote from: QB Eagles on November 18, 2007, 11:31:12 PM
- McNabb and Feeley's combined QB rating for the first half was 2.5

- Westbrook had 0 yards receiving. Tough to imagine him getting to 1000/1000.

- Thankfully, William James did not play.

He'll still break 2000 from scrimmage though, that's good enough for me.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

pinoyboy2pt0

I'm changing my want from trading for Fitz to trading for Chad Johnson.  Not only do I think Chad would be a better fit, but (someone said it) McNabb isn't talented in throwing the behind the shoulder fade route in the corner of the end zone.  Something Fitz is great on. 

Anywho, I think we'll be ok if we get Suggs (even J. Allen) / CJ / Asaunte Samuel + run the ball.  that would make us unstoppable.  But this organization is just too retarded to let that happen.  At least Kearse was deactivated, that made me happy.  What a pile he is.
Pass.  Pass. Pass. PUNT.  No pro bowl WR's.  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  Retarded special teams.  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  "I've got to do a better job."  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  Running game shines for 3 plays. Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  No adjustments anywhere.  Pass.  Pass. Pass. PUNT.  (repeat)

hbionic

Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 18, 2007, 07:04:32 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 18, 2007, 05:12:26 PM
Feeley
-- playbook is not scaled down because he's in there

If anything, the playbook was opened up to reveal previously undiscovered running plays. 

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
I said watch the game and you will see my spirit manifest.-ILLEAGLE 02/04/05


pinoyboy2pt0

Rocca's punt was 46 yards and had a hang time of a little over 5 seconds.  If you're guys can't cover 46 yards in 5 seconds, well, you suck.  This is old news (and now used to it), but our team plays bitch every time we kick/punt to a returner not named Mahe.
Pass.  Pass. Pass. PUNT.  No pro bowl WR's.  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  Retarded special teams.  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  "I've got to do a better job."  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  Running game shines for 3 plays. Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  No adjustments anywhere.  Pass.  Pass. Pass. PUNT.  (repeat)

Don Ho

Quote from: QB Eagles on November 18, 2007, 11:31:12 PM
- McNabb and Feeley's combined QB rating for the first half was 2.5

holy shtein!
"Well where does Jack Lord live, or Don Ho?  That's got to be a nice neighborhood"  Jack Singer(Nicholas Cage) in Honeymoon in Vegas.

Cerevant

With that win, the Eagles are in a 3-way tie for the 3rd wild card.  Everything is just fine.
:puke
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Feva

Yeah... sucks that there are only 2 wildcards, huh?
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ice grillin you

i love the front offices spin on kearses knee....that we fans dont realize how bad the injury is...thats fine...but if that is indeed the case then why did you continue to start him thru the first ten weeks of the season


greg lewis should be cut for his pathetic effort on the ginn return....gocong got merked on the same play

mcnabb has never really been good at it but he currently is 100% incapable of throwing the ball to a spot...he has to be able to throw it directly into the wr or he isnt completing the pass...problem is the team has no wr's that can get open which makes for a lethal combination
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

MadMarchHare

It's gonna be just like last year, see?  They'll get crushed by the future SB winner next week, McNabb will hurt his vadge, AJ will come in for the rest of the season, go 5-0.  They'll make the playoffs, lose in the divisional round.  Reid will keep his job, McNabb will get traded for 1 cent on the dollar, and the team will suck just as bad next year.

Of course I don't believe anything but the last sentence will happen, but I can see the headlines.
Anyone but Reid.

SD_Eagle5

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 19, 2007, 07:33:48 AM
i love the front offices spin on kearses knee....that we fans dont realize how bad the injury is...thats fine...but if that is indeed the case then why did you continue to start him thru the first ten weeks of the season

sounded like a  setup to keep him.

ice grillin you

probably...he counts for something like 4-5 million in dead money if cut before next season
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyGirl

Yup. I woke up this morning just as pissed off that Reid only runs the ball when McNabb isn't playing.

Still hate him.  :boom
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

PhillyGirl

QuotePhil Sheridan | McNabb questions still unanswered

By Phil Sheridan

Inquirer Columnist
It isn't going to be that easy.

The Donovan McNabb era flashed before your eyes as the Eagles' starting quarterback made the all-too-familiar trek to the X-ray room yesterday. McNabb's history - a broken ankle in Week 11 of the 2002 season, a serious groin injury in Week 10 in 2005, a blown knee in Week 11 last year - told you this was it. His season, and possibly his time in Philadelphia, had to be over.

That would have freed Andy Reid to do whatever he wants at the position. He could have gone with A.J. Feeley for a couple of weeks, then eased rookie Kevin Kolb into the lineup.

But no. McNabb returned from the X-ray room for the third quarter. His right ankle was sprained. His right thumb was injured, too - jammed on a first-half throw. The injuries were severe enough to prevent him from returning to this game but not likely to keep him out of action for the long term.

"If Donovan's healthy, he's the quarterback," Reid said after a plodding 17-7 victory over the winless Miami Dolphins.

That part is simple. The ramifications are not. McNabb did not play well in the roughly 20 minutes before blitzing cornerback Michael Lehan rolled up on his ankle. The offense had that same listlessness it has shown almost all season.

McNabb wasn't the sole cause. The pass protection was abysmal. The Eagles were confused by the blitz scheme of Dolphins defensive coordinator Dom Capers. Two of McNabb's first three passes were dropped. His best pass, a gorgeous touchdown throw to Reggie Brown on a flea-flicker, was negated by a holding penalty on L.J. Smith.

But McNabb did throw two bad interceptions, both to safety Jason Allen. He tried to force one ball to Brown. The other was a "miscommunication," he said, a deep throw where there were no Eagles.

When Feeley came in, there was more of the same. Pressure. Covered receivers. Another bad throw that was intercepted. Then came halftime and a chance for sanity to seep in.

After the game, Reid said the Eagles' run-oriented approach was "what we planned on doing." But the numbers say otherwise. McNabb was in the game for 21 offensive plays - 13 called passes and eight called runs. After Feeley came in, there were 21 called passes and 27 called runs.

McNabb: 62 percent pass plays.

Feeley: 44 percent pass plays.

We can linger on why Reid would pretend the play-calling didn't change because McNabb was out. But the more interesting and ultimately era-defining issue is why Reid and his staff stubbornly refuse to give McNabb the benefit of a more-balanced offensive approach. Year after year, regardless of McNabb's health or the quality of his receivers or the state of the offensive line, Reid makes No. 5 throw the ball a ridiculous number of times.

On a cold, windy, wet day against the 30th-ranked run defense in the NFL, McNabb was throwing 62 percent of the time.

When the coaches turned to Brian Westbrook, the Eagles moved the ball, took pressure off their quarterback, and seized control of the game.

It's hard to tell whether Reid's blind spot here is a kind of compliment - he just believes McNabb can and will do the impossible - or a sign he's hell-bent on getting McNabb maimed. There is ample evidence for both theories.

And you wonder where all this plays into McNabb's thinking. Five years ago, a younger McNabb played most of a game after breaking his ankle. This time, he took himself out.

"I know what I can and can't do," McNabb said. "There was no reason to go back out there. . . . I knew that I was done."

A few questions later: "I can't really run," he said. "I can't drop back. For me to go out and be a sitting duck, that takes away from what we want to do on the offensive side."

Just to make things even more frustrating, McNabb ran the ball with more quickness and elusiveness than we've seen since he hurt the knee a year ago. That reinforced the sense that he has been playing all season at some fraction of full strength. Now he will have to rehab a sprained ankle as he tries to prepare for the best team in the NFL.

"I am going to get right to get back out there and make sure I'm capable of doing what I can do," McNabb said. "We'll see how the week goes."

Here's how it will go: There will be debate over whether the Eagles are better off with Feeley or McNabb, then the Patriots will win and there will be more debate next week and the week after.

It could have been so easy, but no. With this team, it never is.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen