The observation thread

[ice grillin you]

yeah and i doubt feeley was throwing the ball away. he had no pressure on him and unless he totally missed LJ or the other WRs he had no reason to throw it away.



yeah its clear from watching the play that he wasnt throwing it away and his first and ultimately only intent was to go to curtis for six

[Rome]

jaws and baldinger both said this week that the first option on that play was curtis...the design was to get him one on one outside for a big play

Which makes no farging sense from a tactical standpoint.  3:50 to go with Brady quarterbacking.  If Reid's intention was to score quickly then he should be canned right here and now because by doing so he was basically handing the game to the Patriots.

[ice grillin you]

Yeah, but the defense (and consequently, it's numbers/stats) usually has the luxury to dictate due to the sucess of the offense.  Not too many opposing O's, if any, have the ability to literally score on every possession like NE does.  In a number of games this year, NE's D has been pinning its ears back by mid-2nd quarter.  Most defenses have to worry about the running game for an entire 60 minutes.  The Pats' D has to worry about the run for the 1st half.  So, it's going to be near the top in run defense because teams have abandoned the run so much.  On the flip side... it'll be harder to pass against them when they can just rush the QB when they know the pass is coming.  Off the top of my head, I can think of 3 games all year where the Pats had to be concerned with the run (IND, DAL, PHI) for 60 minutes.  The rest were relative laughers.

It's obviously a good D, but it's numbers wouldn't be where they are if they weren't aided by an incredible offense that pared things down for them.



exactly...i thought reese/cole would be able to figure out what i meant when i said the defense is up 31-0 every game...but i forgot his pea brain is unable to process in that manner...oh and that he knows zero about football

[Feva]

I don't really have a problem with trying to score right then and there.  You can't worry about winning the game until you have more points than the other team.  You worry about all that other shtein later.

Yeah, I don't like giving the ball back to Brady with that much time any more than anyone else, and I think he likely would have lead them down for a score, but that's the situation.  At least they would have been in that situation with the lead had they scored.

3 minutes is a shteinload of time to try to burn off to go 20 yards anyway... especially against a D that good.  In the situation, Feeley made a terrible throw while we were in FG range is what blew the game IMO, not the aggressive playcall.  Feeley's got to throw that to where if Curtis couldn't get there... he would have at least had an opportunity to break that up.  Samuel was 5 yards in front of Curtis and even he had to catch it over the shoulder.  A better throw... and that's likely an incomplete pass instead of an INT and the Eagles would still have had a chance.

[Magical_Retard]

or had he just seen how far back samuels was dropping and under thrown it a lil curtis might have had a nice 20yd+ reception.

[ice grillin you]

up to that point in the drive feely was something like 5-6 throwing all short passes which had the patriots on the ropes...immediately before the pass westbrook had ripped off a seven yard run...then all of a sudden on 2nd and 3 from the 30 you throw for the end zone...it just made so sense whatsoever...had they been inside the 15 then you def take some shots at the end zone...but in that down/distance/score/time situation it made absolutely no sense there...not to mention how the flow of the game was at that point

[JackStraw]

Often in farg ups, the simplest explanation is best...I think he just got the yips - buck fever if you will - flinched and missed like Cheney.

[reese125]

Yeah, but the defense (and consequently, it's numbers/stats) usually has the luxury to dictate due to the sucess of the offense.  Not too many opposing O's, if any, have the ability to literally score on every possession like NE does.  In a number of games this year, NE's D has been pinning its ears back by mid-2nd quarter.  Most defenses have to worry about the running game for an entire 60 minutes.  The Pats' D has to worry about the run for the 1st half.  So, it's going to be near the top in run defense because teams have abandoned the run so much.  On the flip side... it'll be harder to pass against them when they can just rush the QB when they know the pass is coming.  Off the top of my head, I can think of 3 games all year where the Pats had to be concerned with the run (IND, DAL, PHI) for 60 minutes.  The rest were relative laughers.

It's obviously a good D, but it's numbers wouldn't be where they are if they weren't aided by an incredible offense that pared things down for them.



exactly...i thought reese/cole would be able to figure out what i meant when i said the defense is up 31-0 every game...but i forgot his pea brain is unable to process in that manner...oh and that he knows zero about football

What the farg are you talking about IGY? Can I have your address so I can over and piss in your mouth? Than when Im done, I can shtein on your face because you truly are a shteincan. You know no more than me about football kid. This persona you put up about being the god of football and everyone should agree with you on EVERYTHING or you kick and scream like a girl is a complete joke.....and I grin at all your "attempts" to drop knowledge.

You have some severe inadequacies you need to deal with and a very sad infatuation with my ballsack. Keep it coming charlie.

[ice grillin you]

What the farg are you talking about IGY? Can I have your address so I can over and piss in your mouth? Than when Im done, I can shtein on your face because you truly are a shteincan. You know no more than me about football kid. This persona you put up about being the god of football and everyone should agree with you on EVERYTHING or you kick and scream like a girl is a complete joke.....and I grin at all your "attempts" to drop knowledge.

You have some severe inadequacies you need to deal with and a very sad infatuation with my ballsack. Keep it coming charlie.

im by no means a football god and there are people on this very board that know easily as much about football as me and some more

i think youre confused because your complete and utter lack of football knowledge makes me appear to be a god

now go cry some more you bitchmade cranial lump

[reese125]

im by no means a football god and there are people on this very board that know easily as much about football as me and some more

yeah, way to try and get moral support from the peanut gallery. People just cracked up at that statement

I know you have the Concretefield elections coming up and all, but this is ridiculous....

[ice grillin you]

[reese125]

My bad. I'll stop.

Damn, your younger than I thought.

[rjs246]

I love you guys.

[Yeti]

jaws and baldinger both said this week that the first option on that play was curtis...the design was to get him one on one outside for a big play

Which makes no farging sense from a tactical standpoint.  3:50 to go with Brady quarterbacking.  If Reid's intention was to score quickly then he should be canned right here and now because by doing so he was basically handing the game to the Patriots.

Burn the clock.  Short yard plays.  Move the chains.  Score with no time left on the clock.

That's what the good teams do.  I think andy should couch arena ball in the off season to get the concept of clock management.

[methdeez]

jaws and baldinger both said this week that the first option on that play was curtis...the design was to get him one on one outside for a big play

Which makes no farging sense from a tactical standpoint.  3:50 to go with Brady quarterbacking.  If Reid's intention was to score quickly then he should be canned right here and now because by doing so he was basically handing the game to the Patriots.

I don't agree. If you can score, score. Let them worry about trying to play catch-up.