07/08 Phillies Offseason Thread

[Geowhizzer]

He's had one good and two terrible years in the last three:

2005:  5 HR, 28 RBI, .235/.323/.383 (56 games)
2006: 22 HR, 95RBI, .296/.369/.518 (142 games)
2007:  8 HR, 58 RBI. ..265/.331/.398 (112 games)

So, to me:

1.  He's mostly on the decline, at least offensively (will be 33 next year, one year younger than Lowell).
2.  He's missed no less than 20 games in the last four years (also played 142 in 2004).
3.  He's going to cost $12M per for three years.
4.  The Cardinals have said that they're not going to take scraps for him.

That said, he's better than any third baseman currently wearing red pinstripes. 

[Rome]

Moot

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Rolen?  No.  Anyone who wants him to put on a Phillies uniform again should get violated with a battle axe.

[PhillyGirl]

Not only did he rip the city, but WHILE the city was behind him and supporting his stance against the FO, he dissed ALL of us when he was cheered on for a curtain call (after a big play or game, can't remember) and blew us all off by ignoring it.

And in his first game in Heaven, he obliged a curtain call.

He's a piece of shtein.

[Rome]

So, a recap... everyone here who is a Phillies fan except Wingspan hates Rolen and thinks it would be a colossally stupid idea to bring him back to Philly?

[Geowhizzer]

2 pitchers on the rumor mill are Randy Wolf and Bartolo Colon. 

[PhillyPhreak54]

1. Rolen is a Hoyda; farg him and farg Heaven

2. Colon would be Garcia and Millwood part two. No thanks.

3. Wolf? Mildly interested, but he cannot stay healthy. And he's a junkballer

4. Did I hear Gammons seemingly suggest that Lowell could come here? I would like that. Its obvious Rowand is gone, so they need a RH bat to helpout. Plus he's a good fielding 3B.

[SunMo]

they have to replace Rowand's production from last year one way or another...Lowell would be perfect, it fills an offensive and defensive need, Gammons apparently said on ESPN that the Phils are "coming on strong"

[SD_Eagle5]

I can deal with a Burrell/Victorino/Werth outfield if they signed Lowell.

A small part of me wants to take a chance on Prior. I know his shoulder is shot but he's still only 27. I wish they could get him cheap and make him prove he's still decent but that's totally unrealistic.

[Wingspan]

So, a recap... everyone here who is a Phillies fan except Wingspan hates Rolen and thinks it would be a colossally stupid idea to bring him back to Philly?

Who said anything about bringing him back to philly?

Hate him or no...when healthy, he's the best 3B in the NL.

[Sgt PSN]

I can deal with a Burrell/Victorino/Werth outfield if they signed Lowell.

Definately.  Although it would make the loss of Bourn sting a little more though.  

[PhillyPhreak54]

I can deal with a Burrell/Victorino/Werth outfield if they signed Lowell.

A small part of me wants to take a chance on Prior. I know his shoulder is shot but he's still only 27. I wish they could get him cheap and make him prove he's still decent but that's totally unrealistic.

I'd take a shot on Prior...a minor league or non-guaranteed ML deal, sure.

I don't like that OF. I still would like to deal Burrell...the time is now. He played well. But he has to approve the NTC and I dont see him doing that, but hopefully they try

[MDS]

Lowell wanted to stay in Boston, so if the Phillies are "coming on strong," they are obviously going to grossly overpay for him. This will be a contract that will undoubtedly kill the payroll in it's last 3 years, ala Pat Burrell, but I like the idea that they are going for it for these next few years. Rollins and Utley are 28, Howard is 27; they are all in their prime. Why the farg not try to win it now, and by win it, I mean find a way to choke.

[Rome]

So, a recap... everyone here who is a Phillies fan except Wingspan hates Rolen and thinks it would be a colossally stupid idea to bring him back to Philly?

Who said anything about bringing him back to philly?

Hate him or no...when healthy, he's the best 3B in the NL.

So you're saying he's the best 3B in the NL and have defended and justified his actions against the team, the fans, and the city of Philadelphia but there's no way you want him back in Philly?

I see.

[Rome]

I noticed this quote by Phreak's favorite GM-In-Waiting and got a chuckle out of it:

"I know it's become mode to talk about other teams' players, but we are not in that mode," said Phils assistant GM Ruben Amaro Jr.