Bye Week Game Thread

[RezRob]

Verbal fellating by FO and AR, national media worships schwantz of the Cowgirls.

[phattymatty]

winston justice will still give up a sack this weekend.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

Whatever.

Paul Domowitch | It's fair to ask: Is Andy's focus elsewhere?

THIS WAS late August, a good 2 weeks before the Eagles would begin their disappointing September journey to 1-3 by dropping a pair of punts in a three-point loss to the Green Bay Packers.
The youngest of Andy Reid's two knuckleheaded sons, 22-year-old Britt, had just been arrested - again - for failing a sobriety test after driving his truck into a shopping cart in the parking lot of a sporting-goods store.

The next day, Reid opened his post-practice news conference by informing the assembled media not to waste his time or theirs asking about anything other than his football team.

"If you can stay away from questions on my family, I'd appreciate it," he said. "This is about football and our football team. If you decide to go in that direction, then I'm going in that direction [toward the door]."

The national perception of the Philadelphia media is that we're tougher than junkyard dogs. No doubt about it, this is a tough media town. But aside from the occasional stupidity that emanates from the talk shows, it's also a very fair one.

That's never been more the case than with our handling of the problems of Reid's sons. Garrett, 24, and Britt were arrested in separate incidents Jan. 30. Garrett is under house arrest awaiting sentencing on drug and traffic charges. Britt, who pleaded guilty to a felony gun charge and also awaits sentencing, has been in the Montgomery County Jail since the August arrest. While we've reported the hell out of the story, for the most part, we've done it from a respectful distance.

We haven't gone through the Reids' garbage. We haven't stalked Britt and Garrett, or their mother. And we've honored Reid's request to keep the questions to football.

But a month into the season, the line between Reid's family issues and his team's poor play is starting to become blurred.

While questions about his sons don't need to be asked of him right now, this one most certainly does: Are his personal problems starting to affect his ability to coach his football team?

Team president Joe Banner says that's not the case. But it's still a fair question to ask.

For 9 years now, Reid has taken the bullet for each and every Eagles loss. We've rolled our eyes every time he has stared down at us from the NovaCare Ritz stage and told us that it's "my job to put players in better position to make plays."

But we haven't been rolling them this season because Reid, the winningest coach in Eagles history, has done a lousy job of coaching thus far. His fingerprints are all over two of the Eagles' three losses.

His failure to bring in an experienced punt returner cost them the game in Green Bay. Last week, he committed another major gaffe, foolishly thinking his inexperienced left tackle, Winston Justice, who got his first NFL start in place of veteran William Thomas, would be just fine and dandy out there in space against Giants defensive end Osi Umenyiora.

In a game in which quarterback Donovan McNabb was sacked a franchise-record 12 times, including six times by Umenyiora, an astounding 47 of the Eagles' 66 offensive plays were pass plays. Even when it became obvious to anyone with a working pair of eyes that Justice was overmatched against Umenyiora, Reid did little to give him help.

I have enormous sympathy for what Reid is going through right now with his sons. While those close to him insist he is able to keep his family crisis from affecting his job performance, I'm starting to wonder whether that's possible.

I'm seeing a coach who is making mistakes someone with his experience shouldn't be making. I'm seeing a coach who looks distracted and physically run down. I'm seeing a coach who is letting too many things fall through the cracks that he never would have let fall through before.

But Banner said that's not what he's seeing.

"There's two separate questions from where I sit," he said. "The first is whether it has affected him. The obvious answer is, how could you not be affected by it? But the separate question is what impact is it having on the other thing you're doing in your life. And I don't think it's having any.

"There are really strong people out there - CEOs of massive companies, doctors, lawyers, coaches, players, cabdrivers - who are able to both deal with the challenges they face in their life and still continue to be excellent at what they do. Working with him every day, seeing him every day, that's the category he's in for me.

"It would be foolish to try to say it isn't on his mind and doesn't weigh on his mind. The same is true of all the other categories of people I mentioned. Some of those people do get to a point where the weight is too heavy and starts to trickle down to the other parts of their lives. But that's not been the case with Andy.

"I respect people's right to have that perspective [that Reid's family issues are affecting his job performance]. But drawing that as an explanation [for the 1-3 start], I think, is going in the wrong direction."

Banner said it's a reach to use Reid's decision to go into the Green Bay game with Greg Lewis as his punt returner as evidence that his mind isn't totally on his team these days.

"If you want to call that a mistake, we're certainly not the first team that's had a less experienced guy or rookie who wasn't secure with the ball and ended up making a mistake that cost his team a game," he said. "It wasn't an unprecedented error.

"In Tom [Heckert] and Andy, we have the benefit of what, for most teams, is the caliber of two general managers. I don't think we've missed anything [because of Reid's family issues]. That's not to say we don't ever make mistakes. We obviously don't get everything right and have never pretended that we do.

"But when we do get something wrong, it's not because of a lack of time or attention. It's just the nature of what we do. You're going to be wrong a certain percentage of the time even if you're really good at it." *

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The fact they are already addressing it after the first quarter of the season is good thing. Out with Reid!

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

If his personal problems are NOT affecting his coaching, then he's simply a bad coach.

[Rome]

Die

[ice grillin you]

If his personal problems are NOT affecting his coaching, then he's simply a bad coach.

hes been doing the shtein hes doing now for eight years....the kids have nothing to do with it...if you blame any of this on his family crap i have to wonder what youve been watching since 99...the main difference now is that the talent level on the team is not what it used to be...and the injured qb is certainly not helping

[Rome]

The talent level was good enough for them to put up 56 on the 3-1 Lions.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

He's worse this year.  The family problems definitely have something to do with it.

But if you think otherwise, whatever.  As long as you agree he's sucking wind and needs to go, I'm not going to bother arguing with you.

If you think Reid should be kept around, FIGHT ME NOW!

[ice grillin you]

The talent level was good enough for them to put up 56 on the 3-1 Lions.


westbrook is ultra talented and the lions secondary is not...overall tho the teams talent base is not good

[Rome]

Stop blaming the talent level.  The talent level on the team is good enough to win most games.  Play-calling is what ultimately does them in when they lose and Sunday night was no different.

PS: Missing five starters didn't help especially when all five of those starters are excellent players.

[ice grillin you]

you cant have four straight years of bad drafts and free agency and expect the talent base to remain what it is

the coaching has always sucked...and im not saying the players suck cause they dont but they are moving in that direction and have been for a while now

[phattymatty]

all you d-bags are saying the same thing.  his playcalling has always been bad.  but they had the talent on the team to win anyway, despite it.  now with 5 pro-bowlers beat up and barely playing, they can no longer do that.  therefore, the eagles suck balls.

[fansince61]

you cant have four straight years of bad drafts and free agency and expect the talent base to remain what it is

the coaching has always sucked...and im not saying the players suck cause they dont but they are moving in that direction and have been for a while now

2004 they added a high quality WR and the eagles ruled.  Otherwise Reid has been very lucky to have arrived in Philly when the NFC East was maybe the weakest NFL division.  It's not easy to "buy into" Reids "west coatast offense" you have to believe:

        McNabb =  Montana
        Curtis    =  Rice
        Brown   =  Taylor
        Westbrook =  Craig (Westbrook is better IMO) 
        whoever  =  Rathman
        Smith       =  Jones

I'd say there is a big talent gap that coaching can't overcome. 

[ice grillin you]

saw donovan at the cubs diamondbacks game last night

[Rome]

Merrill's done lost his mind.