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Started by ice grillin you, August 21, 2007, 09:56:58 AM

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Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 23, 2007, 12:21:02 PM
i will say this again...i dont have a problem with trotter being let go....i just hate our draft that much more though. we have immediate needs on the defense and we selected a guy who might not even be ready to start at QB for another yr or 2. so what happens? one injury to the LB corp or to the safeties and we are left with in experienced project players starting for a D that was already suspect. and we all know someone will get hurt. it happens every yr to every team. so the defense struggles again...we still make the playoffs thanks to the crappy NFC and we come up short again...and come next season mcnabb gets cut or maybe he gets hurt again and they start kolb justifying the pick. our "philosophy" is so retarded its unreal.

They used 4 picks on defense this season, and 4 picks last year. How exactly are they ignoring their needs in the draft?
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rjs246

Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 23, 2007, 12:21:02 PM
umm but if he blasts Reid the coach he becomes Tiki, TO, or any number of other players blasted for being non team players for calling out coaches and other teammates.

as always mcnabb cant win with anything he says.

You're right about him blasting the coach, or course. I just hate how buddy buddy he and Reid are. I want him to keep his mouth shut but he never does. I want Reid to coach football like he cares but he never does.

Anyway, I'll stop now. Basically, as everyone can plainly see, I just want athletes to shut the farg up and until that happens I'll automatically assume that they are whining about something or acting like a punk every time they open their stupid mouths.
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Quote from: Wingspan on August 23, 2007, 12:30:08 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 23, 2007, 12:21:02 PM
i will say this again...i dont have a problem with trotter being let go....i just hate our draft that much more though. we have immediate needs on the defense and we selected a guy who might not even be ready to start at QB for another yr or 2. so what happens? one injury to the LB corp or to the safeties and we are left with in experienced project players starting for a D that was already suspect. and we all know someone will get hurt. it happens every yr to every team. so the defense struggles again...we still make the playoffs thanks to the crappy NFC and we come up short again...and come next season mcnabb gets cut or maybe he gets hurt again and they start kolb justifying the pick. our "philosophy" is so retarded its unreal.

They used 4 picks on defense this season, and 4 picks last year. How exactly are they ignoring their needs in the draft?

going into the draft i thought our biggest need on this team was a Safety. im not sold on considine and with one injury to dawkins we are in deep doo doo. ok so we didnt get a safety in the first few rounds....my other concern was LB and we didnt get that either till later. im not sold on late round picks being counted on in their first season. yeah there are always gems in the late rounds who light the league on fire but its a very low percentage. gocong might turn out to be a great player but just like most ppl im more nervous about him than sure about him.

i dont know i just wanted them to make a move in draft...maybe even move up to get a Safety or LB...someone who could start now if needed...and not start cause of a injury or emergency situations. it might be my crazy conspiracy theory but this is exactly how they will justify their pick of kolb...unless we win the superbowl this yr.

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Magical_Retard

Quote from: rjs246 on August 23, 2007, 12:31:56 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 23, 2007, 12:21:02 PM
umm but if he blasts Reid the coach he becomes Tiki, TO, or any number of other players blasted for being non team players for calling out coaches and other teammates.

as always mcnabb cant win with anything he says.

You're right about him blasting the coach, or course. I just hate how buddy buddy he and Reid are. I want him to keep his mouth shut but he never does. I want Reid to coach football like he cares but he never does.

Anyway, I'll stop now. Basically, as everyone can plainly see, I just want athletes to shut the farg up and until that happens I'll automatically assume that they are whining about something or acting like a punk every time they open their stupid mouths.

i agree with you....everytime i hear someone being interviewed or on ESPN or something i worry about what they will say. i would rather have the players shut up and just play. but if they do that certain ppl assume the players are soft or being controlled. either way you look at it...the media will find a way to twist it into something negative.
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Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 23, 2007, 12:40:34 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on August 23, 2007, 12:30:08 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 23, 2007, 12:21:02 PM
i will say this again...i dont have a problem with trotter being let go....i just hate our draft that much more though. we have immediate needs on the defense and we selected a guy who might not even be ready to start at QB for another yr or 2. so what happens? one injury to the LB corp or to the safeties and we are left with in experienced project players starting for a D that was already suspect. and we all know someone will get hurt. it happens every yr to every team. so the defense struggles again...we still make the playoffs thanks to the crappy NFC and we come up short again...and come next season mcnabb gets cut or maybe he gets hurt again and they start kolb justifying the pick. our "philosophy" is so retarded its unreal.

They used 4 picks on defense this season, and 4 picks last year. How exactly are they ignoring their needs in the draft?

going into the draft i thought our biggest need on this team was a Safety. im not sold on considine and with one injury to dawkins we are in deep doo doo. ok so we didnt get a safety in the first few rounds....my other concern was LB and we didnt get that either till later. im not sold on late round picks being counted on in their first season. yeah there are always gems in the late rounds who light the league on fire but its a very low percentage. gocong might turn out to be a great player but just like most ppl im more nervous about him than sure about him.

i dont know i just wanted them to make a move in draft...maybe even move up to get a Safety or LB...someone who could start now if needed...and not start cause of a injury or emergency situations. it might be my crazy conspiracy theory but this is exactly how they will justify their pick of kolb...unless we win the superbowl this yr.


Reid and Heckert have said that if the Safteys they wanted were available, they would have not traded out of where there were.  Once Merriweather was off, then Beason at LB they decided to move back and get more picks. 
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Feva

I don't remember anybody blasting Dawkins and telling him to STFU about his comments on losing Trotter.


I know, I know... it's different though, right?.
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ice grillin you

They used 4 picks on defense this season, and 4 picks last year. How exactly are they ignoring their needs in the draft?

only two linebackers tho and one was a 7th rounder
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rjs246

Quote from: EagleFeva on August 23, 2007, 12:58:09 PM
I don't remember anybody blasting Dawkins and telling him to STFU about his comments on losing Trotter.


I know, I know... it's different though, right?.

Dawkins is a stereotypical god-invoking athlete and I cringe at a lot of what he says. But you can't deny certain things. One of those things is that when Dawkins opens his mouth, it sounds like leadership. When McNabb opens his mouth it sounds like he's about to cry. There's nothing objective that I can point to and say "This is why Dawkins is a leader and McNabb is a talented goofball." But I don't think anyone can deny that there is a vast difference between the two.

Plus I'm scared that Dawkins will find me and fight me to the death if I bad mouth him. In which case the Eagles would lose their best player and I would get blood on my clothes.
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Wingspan

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 23, 2007, 01:03:52 PM
They used 4 picks on defense this season, and 4 picks last year. How exactly are they ignoring their needs in the draft?

only two linebackers tho and one was a 7th rounder

Um...3 technically

LBs, Bradley (Rd 3), Gocong (Rd 3), and Gaither (rd 5)

Yes, I know Gocong was a DE in college...but the goal all along was to have him move to LB.

And in 05, they used a 2nd rounder pick on McCoy. (Whether or not the player pans our has no bearing on the fact that they addressed the need through the draft)
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ice grillin you

And in 05, they used a 2nd rounder pick on McCoy


mccoy being a steaming pile of ish is one of the reasons they needed to go olb more than they have

if and its a huge if....a 7th rounder and a converted div II de work out then the starters are fine...but that still leaves pathetic depth at the position especially when these other guys are long shots to pan out
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Rome

The thing that bothers me about McNabb is he's always been the class clown, cut-up type.  And that's fine.  If you think leading others by making them laugh and keep lose is the way to go, then so be it.  The problem lies in when you try and act serious like some sort of foot-in-the-ass field general, it doesn't work.

You're either the keep-it-loose class clown or you're the no-bullshtein field-general type.  You can't be both.  It seems that lately Donovan has tried to assume a mantle of leadership and his teammates are looking at him like "dude, are you farging serious with this horseshtein - quit acting like something you're not."

I mean, I see it so his teammates have to as well, right?  I don't know... maybe I'm wrong.


Wingspan

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 23, 2007, 01:38:44 PM
And in 05, they used a 2nd rounder pick on McCoy


mccoy being a steaming pile of ish is one of the reasons they needed to go olb more than they have

if and its a huge if....a 7th rounder and a converted div II de work out then the starters are fine...but that still leaves pathetic depth at the position especially when these other guys are long shots to pan out


What 7th Rounder are you talking about?
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ice grillin you

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5th rounder...gaither...sorry

point still stands...he was drafted as special teamer and only played last year because mccoy is wack...now he has to start


oh and romey the class clown mcnabb would work if mcnabb was actually funny
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Wingspan

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 23, 2007, 01:45:02 PM
5th rounder...gaither...sorry

point still stands

I dont know what your point was to begin with. All you said originally was "only two linebackers tho and one was a 7th rounder"
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