The coming financial crisis

Started by Butchers Bill, August 09, 2007, 05:05:33 PM

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Sgt PSN

Quote from: Butchers Bill on January 09, 2008, 02:06:36 AM
Countrywide about to go under...not good even though they suck

Just out of curiosity, what happens to home owners who mortgage their homes through Countrywide if the company goes under?  Do the people lose their homes?  Do they find a new mortgage company?  Do they get their balance paid off as a result of some sort of bankruptcy law?  They were my mortgage company for the house I owned in NC so seeing their name raised an eyebrow. 

reese125

If a mortgage company goes bankrupt, the mortgages they own are sold to another mortgage company. Nothing else changes. The terms, rates and conditions of the mortgage stay the same. The only difference for a homeowner is they will be contacted by, and begin sending their payment to, whichever lender purchased their loan.

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Quote from: reese125 on January 09, 2008, 05:11:30 PM
If a mortgage company goes bankrupt, the mortgages they own are sold to another mortgage company. Nothing else changes. The terms, rates and conditions of the mortgage stay the same. The only difference for a homeowner is they will be contacted by, and begin sending their payment to, whichever lender purchased their loan.

This might be a stupid question, but what happens if no one wants to buy some of the risky mortgages?
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MadMarchHare

They're sold in bundles, safe ones and risky ones mixed together, to "minimize" risk to the buyer.
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Butchers Bill

Quote from: PPinDC on January 09, 2008, 09:42:24 PM
Quote from: reese125 on January 09, 2008, 05:11:30 PM
If a mortgage company goes bankrupt, the mortgages they own are sold to another mortgage company. Nothing else changes. The terms, rates and conditions of the mortgage stay the same. The only difference for a homeowner is they will be contacted by, and begin sending their payment to, whichever lender purchased their loan.

This might be a stupid question, but what happens if no one wants to buy some of the risky mortgages?

Thats part of the current problem.  Companies like Countrywide can't sell the stuff they have, which means they cannot loan more money, which means consumer credit shrinks, which means people buy less, which means recession.
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Phanatic

So how does this effect the average bumbling Joe?
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Butchers Bill

Quote from: Phanatic on January 10, 2008, 12:27:35 PM
So how does this effect the average bumbling Joe?

Less consumer credit = less spending.

Less spending = less services, goods sold, etc.

Less services, goods sold, etc = layoffs.

Layoffs eventually will = recession.

Recession = more foreclosures, even less consumer credit...

This one has the potential to spiral out of control.  Not trying to be an alarmist, just looking at the facts in front of me.
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I once believed in causes too,
I had my pointless point of view,
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Cerevant

Yes, it would be horrible if people were actually forced to live within their means and buy only what they could afford, instead of driving themselves further into debt to satisfy the media driven materialist lust.
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Susquehanna Birder

Quote from: Butchers Bill on January 10, 2008, 12:33:44 PMLess consumer credit = less spending.

This always bothered me. Ideally, spending should be done with free cash (disposable income). Building an economy on credit is a disaster waiting to happen.

Cerevant

Yet everyone is shocked when it does happen.
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Sgt PSN

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 10, 2008, 01:01:28 PM
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Seabiscuit36

Countrywide up 50% today with rumors of BAC buying out Countrywide
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Butchers Bill

I believe I've passed the age of consciousness and righteous rage
I found that just surviving was a noble fight.
I once believed in causes too,
I had my pointless point of view,
And life went on no matter who was wrong or right.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: Butchers Bill on January 11, 2008, 08:26:37 AM
US AAA Credit rating under threat for the first time

At first glance of the link, I thought that I was going to lose my AAA auto coverage.  Duh.


So basically, what this all boils down to is that now that there's a legitimate chance that we elect a black president, all of a sudden the US has poor credit.  Typical.