Kevin Kolb, Philadelphia Eagle

[Zanshin]

Being able to work in the system leading up to the season is also a factor. The longer the work stoppage goes on, the less the value, overall.

[reese125]

Something a rookie qb--esp this class-- will not do or maybe never do. So, for the sucker team/coach that believes Andy Reid is a qb drafting god by all means its worth it.

if the the team doing it is a sucker then how is it worth it?....its only worth it if cobb becomes aaron rodgers but its much more likely he is aj feely and probably most likely hes somewhere in between....and you can get that anytime anywhere without giving up a top five draft pick....id rather have patrick peterson and john skelton than kevin cobb

and plenty of rookie qb's have won six games in the last five years....this isnt the old nfl...rookies can and do perform in todays league

the team trading for Kolb is the sucker meaning its worth it for the Eagles in every way.

bottom line is I think Kolb is going to be an average qb for years to come. so the hype around the league that is surrounding this guy right now because andy reid drafted him, and he is the next Aaron Rodgers is 1) hysterical 2) suckerish.

[MDS]

what you think is....man i dont know, perhaps the most pointless and baseless thing in the entire universe

its not about that. its about other teams valuing kolb and the eagles trying to get as much as they can for him. what you individually think of kolb and whatever random assumption youve come to could not be more useless in this, or any, situation.

[ice grillin you]

yeah its hilarious how reece supposedly knows cobb will be average for his whole career but all the nfl gm's dont

they are all suckers and reece is a genius

[SunMo]

hopefully GMs don't read this board

[MDS]

even our non-special needs poster likes my girl PG and Houston J are in the same boat

this isnt an aj feeley situation where the eagles are trying to get a steal. kolb is probably going to be a pretty solid qb in this league.

if youre a gm do you want to trade for some washed up over the hill vet like donovan or carson palmer. do you want to risk it with a young qb in the draft. or do you want to part with a first rounder for a ready to go young qb.

the third option doesnt seem too bad

[ice grillin you]

even our non-special needs poster likes my girl PG and Houston J are in the same boat

this isnt an aj feeley situation where the eagles are trying to get a steal. kolb is probably going to be a pretty solid qb in this league.

if youre a gm do you want to trade for some washed up over the hill vet like donovan or carson palmer. do you want to risk it with a young qb in the draft. or do you want to part with a first rounder for a ready to go young qb.

the third option doesnt seem too bad

the question isnt whether to trade for cobb its what do you give up for him...i hope im wrong but i cant see the eagles getting a top five pick for him

this is imo the most likely scenarios

a top 10 pick (and def the cards number 5) for cobb would require the eagles to include 23 in the deal and the team trading for him would throw in an additional pick or maybe two

a first rounder farther down the line and the eagles can end up with two number ones

i just cant believe arizona would trade a top 5 pick straight up for a qb that is slightly less of a question mark than some of the qb's in this draft

[Sgt PSN]

If you're willing to spend a top 5 pick on Newton or Locker, then why not Kolb?  He may not have the physical attributes those guys do but I think his experience makes up for that.  He may or may not be an all pro, but he's certainly proven that he can play and start in this league......more than any qb in the draft has, that's for sure. 

[MDS]

oh i dont believe that either

but in relative terms the eagles got a 2nd rounder straight up for feeley and hes just a backup.

arizona has to do something. they need an answer to bradford and they need someone to throw the ball to fitzgerald.

maybe their 1 and an mid level eagles pick?

[Sgt PSN]

Yeah, I'm not saying that a team gives up a top 5 pick for Kolb straight up...they should def get something back from the Eagles, but no way do I think the Eagles should give up anything higher than a 4th round pick along with it. 

Basically, you're spending your top 5 pick on Kolb and then getting a throw in pick that you hope turns into a starting fullback or safety. 

[reese125]

yeah its hilarious how reece supposedly knows cobb will be average for his whole career but all the nfl gm's dont

they are all suckers and reece is a genius

This coming from the guy that just said he would rather have John friggin Skelton than Kolb as his qb....but Im not allowed to make a prediction Kolb is going to be an average qb in the nfl? please. Ive said it since day one and I'm sticking to it. You of all people, the king of outlandish predictions, is going to knock someone else for their prediction? Cute.

what you think is....man i dont know, perhaps the most pointless and baseless thing in the entire universe

its not about that. its about other teams valuing kolb and the eagles trying to get as much as they can for him. what you individually think of kolb and whatever random assumption youve come to could not be more useless in this, or any, situation.

no shtein migy....I couldnt of been any more clearer than that. once again what the farg are you talking about?

[SD]

I'll just throw this all in here since it's Kolb-centric. Sal Pal was on with Mikey Miss earlier and said he's hearing Carolina is leaning heavily towards taking Cam Newton #1 overall. He thinks the Cardinals will act like they are going to take Gabbert but it wouldn't surprise him to see a team like the Skins move up and grab him. He thinks the later 1st rounder the Cards get could be used in a trade for Kolb. Said Arizona and the Eagles have the parameters for a Kolb trade set with a few details still needed to be ironed out. Thinks the lockout will end before the draft because the judge will rule in the players favor keeping the old CBA in place.

[MDS]

one more reason for mcnabb to feel bitter

[BigEd76]

Arizona says they'll give up next year's #1 for a QB like Kolb

[DH]

lets hope they go 0-16