Kevin Kolb, Philadelphia Eagle

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

look at these yellow circles!

I laughed.  Nice.

[Drunkmasterflex]

^ This

He has shown time and time again it won't happen with him.  If he ever wins one it will be because the team around him carried him.  He probably  had more opportunities than any QB in the history of the game to come up big in the playoffs and SB and never did. 

[PhillyPhreak54]

Charles,

I had no choice but to give the guy a chance. He is the new QB of my favorite team. But what he has shown since the PS - can it really be called growing pains. Do you see him unable to pull the trigger on wide open receivers as growing pains?!

MDS,

He stunk it up on Sunday and he was shoved down our throats. When you trade an established veteran for a young guy, to rebuild, then that guy is essentially crammed down the throats of the fans because he is their choice to be the next guy.

Pointing out what the NFLN did is hardly hating - but it was frustrating to watch. Even more frustrating when people said he played well! Nary an analyst that I have listened to or watched or read has praised him, they all pointed out the lack of going down the field on Sunday. So I guess they're haters too?

Again, I hope he comes out on Sunday and plays well and gets the ball down the field. I hope he is the guy for the future. Because I don't want to wait while they search and seek out the next franchise guy.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

He stunk it up on Sunday

But McNabb went out and played awesome, right?  Am I right?  HIGH FIVE!

[PhillyPhreak54]

He played like shtein too.

Why when I talk Kolb do the retorts come back associated with McNabb. Take him out of the equation.

[smeags]

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

He played like shtein too.

Why when I talk Kolb do the retorts come back associated with McNabb. Take him out of the equation.

Why should we?  Your whole argument is that the Eagles should have kept McNabb longer.  Why do you get to keep him in the equation, but we can't?

[Drunkmasterflex]

Analysts can say what they want fact of the matter is he got them back into a football game when they were down by 14 points.  Did he leave plays out on the field sure.  But when it came time at the end of the game he got the job done for the most part.  Is it his fault that the defense can't make stops when it needs to? Or that even though it was desperation the WR couldn't come down with the ball?

If that was McNabb you would be making all those points as to why it wasn't his fault. 

[PhillyPhreak54]

He played like shtein too.

Why when I talk Kolb do the retorts come back associated with McNabb. Take him out of the equation.

Why should we?  Your whole argument is that the Eagles should have kept McNabb longer.  Why do you get to keep him in the equation, but we can't?

By posting the video and picture I mad no mention of McNabb.

I believe he should have been kept, but its over and done with. In talking about Kolb now I am talking about him playing like shtein.

[Drunkmasterflex]

Yes but you do mention the fact they traded an established veteran to play Kolb.  Which is true, you just fail to mention that he has established himself as a choke artist.   

[MDS]

MDS,

He stunk it up on Sunday and he was shoved down our throats. When you trade an established veteran for a young guy, to rebuild, then that guy is essentially crammed down the throats of the fans because he is their choice to be the next guy.

Pointing out what the NFLN did is hardly hating - but it was frustrating to watch. Even more frustrating when people said he played well! Nary an analyst that I have listened to or watched or read has praised him, they all pointed out the lack of going down the field on Sunday. So I guess they're haters too?

Again, I hope he comes out on Sunday and plays well and gets the ball down the field. I hope he is the guy for the future. Because I don't want to wait while they search and seek out the next franchise guy.

who gives a shtein about mcnabb being an established veteran. what the farg does that mean? that they traded a guy who you know is going to go 10-6 and condescendingly annoy the shtein out of the fanbase? it was beyond time for mcnabb and the eagles to go their separate ways and you know this. there is no possible evidence whatsoever to suggest that keeping him for this year or the next 3 years would have resulted in anything different than the last 11 years of falling short and playoff loses that were already accustomed to.

kolb has played 2 separate halves. he hasnt looked particularly good in either. but before getting on the 5 high horse that a. he doesnt want you on because he genuinely despises philly fans and b. is old and well past its prime, understand that any reasonable person expected kolb to suck early on. i wouldnt go as far to say as hes stinking up the joint now, but he certainly looks like a young qb out there. 3 years of riding the bench isnt going to make him joe montana right off the bat. he needs game work. once he gets a month or two of that, then we can reassess where hes at.   

[ice grillin you]

reggie wells > cobb

[charlie]

Charles,

I had no choice but to give the guy a chance. He is the new QB of my favorite team. But what he has shown since the PS - can it really be called growing pains. Do you see him unable to pull the trigger on wide open receivers as growing pains?!

So he's struggling to see the field and hasn't adjusted to the speed of the game yet... the one thing ANY QB will tell you happens once you become a starter, it could take a couple of seasons before it slows down. So he gets to go into the film room and see that what he was missing. And the next time he'll know what to look for. They may not have looked open at the time.

So to answer your question...Um... yeah.

What would your definition of growing pains be?

[Munson]

Why does everyone keep insisting Kolb's only had 2 halfs of play under his belt?

He started 2 games last year
He played another half a game 2 years ago.
He also had 4 preseason games to show something and really didn't, and that's supposed to be against vanilla defenses


I'm not saying he's had extensive playtime, but treating him like he's a rookie who's never played before is wrong. He's played before, and he had all preseason to prepare for this season, and both times he's played he came out scared and looking like he didn't know what he was doing. Hopefully it's a confidence issue and that's all it is, because he can work through that. But I have yet to see anything from him that tells me he'll ever be more than above-average, and the Eagles aren't built to win a SB with just an above-average QB. We've seen that for the last 11 years.

[SD]

He needs to play on a consistent basis to develop, not bits and pieces over 3 seasons. This is the QB position we're talking about here, not a position like LB where you can pretty much either play or not play.