Holy Crap - Massacre At Virginia Tech

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I had to wait 72 hours (actually five full days because of the weekend) to get my Glock from a dealer.

The other guns I have I got immediately from private owners who didn't require a 30 second wait.

Guns don't kill people.  Angry appraisers kill people.

[Rome]

I had to wait 72 hours (actually five full days because of the weekend) to get my Glock from a dealer.

The other guns I have I got immediately from private owners who didn't require a 30 second wait.

Guns don't kill people.  Angry appraisers kill people.

Speaking of which, when's training camp start?

[ice grillin you]

O'Malley wants to make it even harder to get guns legally in MD  

welcome to the most liberal state in the US

i thought it was great last week when on the same day maryland passed the nations first state living wage law....a freeze on college tution costs...and a state wide smoking ban

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I had to wait 72 hours (actually five full days because of the weekend) to get my Glock from a dealer.

The other guns I have I got immediately from private owners who didn't require a 30 second wait.

Guns don't kill people.  Angry appraisers kill people.

Speaking of which, when's training camp start?

Why, are you going to open fire on Spadaro and his team of crack reporters?

[Rome]

Why, are you going to open fire on Spadaro and his team of crack reporters?

Lehigh Valley strippers.

[Seabiscuit36]

Why, are you going to open fire on Spadaro and his team of crack reporters?

Lehigh Valley strippers.

Are they worse than Essington strippers?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

You'd think it's nearly impossible, but I bet they are.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

Was gunman crazed over Emily?
By David Williams and Stefanie Balogh

April 18, 2007 12:00
THIS is the face of the girl who may have sparked the worst school shooting in US history.

Eighteen-year-old Emily Jane Hilscher was one of the first two victims to be identified in the Virginia Tech massacre, along with 22-year-old Ryan Clark.

The pair were neighbours in rooms 4040 and 4042 on the fourth floor of the West Ambler Johnston Hall dormitory where a gunman began the first of 33 campus shootings on Monday morning just after 7am, US time.

The gunman was identified by federal law enforcement authorities late last night as Cho Seung-Hui. He was described as being a 23-year-old South Korean male student who lived on campus, but no other details about him were released last night.

Witnesses to the shooting said that the gunman was involved in an argument with a girlfriend and had later stormed out of the dormitory building.

A counsellor – believed to be Mr Clark, who was also a resident adviser – was called to calm the situation at the dormitory.

The gunman returned at 7.15am and shot Ms Hilscher and Mr Clark. US media reported that Mr Clark had been shot in the neck.

More than two hours later the murderer – armed with two hand guns – stalked the corridors and classrooms of a college building in another separate part of the campus for about 20 minutes, killing 30 more people.

A further 20 students were injured, either by gunfire or jumping out of the massacre building.

The gunman was wearing a vest holding ammunition, witnesses said. He carried a 9mm semi-automatic and a .22-calibre handgun, both with the serial numbers obliterated, according to federal law enforcement officials.

He turned his weapons on himself before police could arrest him.

Police decided against closing down the college after the first shootings occurred, believing the killer had left the scene and was "off campus".

Then, two hours later, gunshots erupted from a separate building about 1km from the scene of the first murders.

Virginia Tech student Chen Chia-hao told Taiwan cable TV about the first shootings.

"They had a big quarrel in the West Ambler Johnston Hall and he shot her. Then the RA (dormitory supervisor) came, and he shot the RA," Mr Chen said.

Witnesses told how the gunman calmly roamed the classrooms inside Norris Hall, a building housing a science and engineering school, firing his weapon as students and teachers vainly tried to flee.

Wearing a black leather coat and maroon hat, the gunman used chains to lock the doors to the building from the inside before beginning his killing spree.

Friends of Ms Hilscher and Mr Clark last night posted messages on internet social-networking site "Facebook" and other blogs remembering her as a vibrant girl with an engaging personality.

"Emily was a wonderful person who always put a smile on my face," wrote friend Jessica Gould.

Mr Clark – a prefect in the dormitory – was in his fifth year at Virginia Tech and a leader in the school's marching band.

"He was such a friendly person," said friend Sarah Davis, 21, a trombone player in the band.

"When I came in as a freshman I was scared to death. He was always really friendly. If he didn't know you, he'd introduce himself."

Columbia County Sheriff's Office in Georgia confirmed 22-year-old Mr Clark from Georgia was one of the first shooting victims.

Ms Hilscher was confirmed dead by local law enforcement officials.

"You hear about people in other places mourning the loss of a child of great potential and great hope, and now we're the ones that have to bear that great loss," an official said last night.

"The Hilschers are strong people, and this is a strong community, and they'll have our support. The best we can hope for is a time of healing."

The list of the dead is known to include at least four staff members.

A message on the school's engineering department website paid tribute to two of the staff.

It read: "In Memoriam. Professor Kevin Granata and Professor Liviu Librescu who died on April 16, 2007 while serving Virginia Tech."

Professor Granata was killed while teaching his course in the Norris Hall building.

Professor Librescu, originally from Romania, was killed alongside Professor Granata.

A third instructor in the engineering department, Professor G.V. Loganathan, was also killed.

President George W. Bush addressed the nation in the hours after the shootings.

"Schools should be places of safety and sanctuary and learning. When that sanctuary is violated, the impact is felt in every American classroom and every American community," he said.

[MDS]

It's times like this I thank God that this nation of Christ's children elected that wonderful man George W. Bush and not that devilish Heintz maggot John F. Kerry.

[ice grillin you]

Va. Tech shooter left note
Posted by the Washington Bureau at 9:25 a.m. CDT

Cho Seung-Hui, the Virginia Tech student identified as the campus shooter responsible for the largest, gun-related mass murder in U.S. history, was a troubled 23-year-old legal permanent resident from South Korea who investigators believe left an invective-filled note in his dorm room that included a rambling list of grievances and died with the words "Ismail Ax" in red ink on the inside of one of his arms.

And he had shown recent signs of violent, aberrant behavior, according to an investigative source, including setting a fire in a dorm room and allegedly stalking some women. A note believed to have been written by Cho was found in his dorm room that railed against "rich kids," "debauchery" and "deceitful charlatans" on campus.


The English major from Centreville, Va., a rapidly growing suburb of Washington, D.C., came to the United States in 1992, an investigative source said. His family runs a dry cleaning business and he has a sister who atatended Princeton University, the source said.

Investigators believe that Cho at some point had been taking medication for depression. They also believe that the gunman used the same weapon in both the attack in the dorm room at Virginia Tech and the larger scale classroom killings. Investigators are examining Cho's computer for more evidence.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0417071vtech1.html

Virginia Killer's Violent Writings
Play told of pedophilic stepfather, murder of 13-year-old boy
APRIL 17--The college student responsible for yesterday's Virginia Tech slaughter was referred last year to counseling after professors became concerned about the violent nature of his writings, as evidenced in a one-act play obtained by The Smoking Gun. The play by Cho Seung-Hui, a 23-year-old English major, was submitted last year as part of a short story writing class. Entitled "Richard McBeef," Cho's bizarre play features a 13-year-old boy who accuses his stepfather of pedophilia and murdering his father. A copy of the killer's play can be found below. The teenager talks of killing the older man and, at one point, the child's mother brandishes a chain saw at the stepfather. The play ends with the man striking the child with "a deadly blow." (10 pages)

[mussa]

hmm sounds like a few korean flicks ive seen lately

[The BIGSTUD]

I actually agree with almost all if not everything that reese, IGY, and rjs said earlier in the topic. No point in beating a dead horse but I think you fellas were right on.

[Diomedes]

Ha! 

[PhillyPhanInDC]

Eye on the the TV
'Cause tragedy thrills me
Whatever flavor it happens to be, like...
"Killed by the husband"
"DROWNED by the ocean"
"Shot by his own son"
"SHe used a poison
in his tea...kissed him goodbye"
It's my kind of story
It's no fun 'til someone dies

Don't look at me like
I am a monster
Frown out your one face
But with the other
Stare like a junkie
Into the TV
Stare like a zombie

While the mother holds her child
Watches him die
Hands to the sky crying,
"Why, oh why?"

Cause I need to watch things die... from a distance
Vicariously I live while the whole world dies
You all need it too, don't lie

Why can't we just admit it?
Why can't we just admit it?
We won't give pause until the blood is flowing
Neither the brave nor bold
write as the story's told
We won't give pause until the blood is flowing

I need to watch things die... from a good safe distance
Vicariously I live while the whole world dies
You all feel the same, so...

Why can't we just admit it?

Blood like rain falling down
Drawn by the brave and proud

Part vampire
Part warrior
Carnivorous Voyuer
Stare at the transmitter
Sing to the death rattle

Credulous at best
Your desire to believe in
Angels in the hearts of men
But pull your head on out
you hippies and give a listen
Shouldn't have to say it all again

The universe is hostile, so impersonal
Devour to survive... so it is, so it's always been

We all feed on tragedy
It's like blood to a vampire

Vicariously I live while the whole world dies
Much better you than I