The 2007 Offseason Thread

[ice grillin you]

thats cause diddys idol is mcdonald...and once mcdonald asked his number one cheerleader to induct him in the hall of fame it was all over after that...diddy thinks mcdonald is best wr in nfl history much less eagles history...thus because of that hes also going to vastly overrate their wr's as a whole

[rjs246]

Some cold hard football facts for that ass

Tommy McDonald. The diminutive wideout (5-9, 176 pounds) played in the NFL from 1958 to 1968, mostly for Philadelphia. He's second only to Hutson in career TD receptions among receivers who spent their entire career in the pre-Live Ball Era NFL. To put his career into perspective, he caught in 152 games as many TD passes as Andre Rison (84) did in 12 years and 184 games in the modern NFL (1989-2000).

McDonald's 84 TDs came on just 495 career receptions and he averaged 17.0 yards per catch.

[Munson]

He dominated against weaker, mostly white competition. [/igy]

[ice grillin you]

i wouldnt say whiter i would say slower and most importantly a lot smaller...again mcdonald was smaller than jeremy bloom

put it this way if andre rison played against tommy mcdonald competition any team he was ever on would never have run the ball

there werent no darrell greens or deion sanders when tommy was playing...which was a very good thing for him...the fact of the matter is the depth of talent in all sports is now so much better than it was 50 years ago its ludicrous to compare the eras...tommy deserves all the credit in the world and deservingly is in the HOF...but hes not even close to being the best eagle wr ever and its laughable to put him in the conversation

[ThirdStreetMafia]

i wouldnt say whiter i would say slower and most importantly a lot smaller...again mcdonald was smaller than jeremy bloom

put it this way if andre rison played against tommy mcdonald competition any team he was ever on would never have run the ball

there werent no darrell greens or deion sanders when tommy was playing...which was a very good thing for him...the fact of the matter is the depth of talent in all sports is now so much better than it was 50 years ago its ludicrous to compare the eras...tommy deserves all the credit in the world and deservingly is in the HOF...but hes not even close to being the best eagle wr ever and its laughable to put him in the conversation

Yeah but how can you fault mcdonald for that? The league was what it was then... I agree with you about him not being one of the two best though. I never really think its quite fair to older players when they get compared to players of today. You have to simply look at what they did to the competitiont they faced... to put them up against anything else really sint fair

[ice grillin you]

i hate it too...thats my whole point...people trying to say that tommy mcdonald was as good as mike quick or harold carmichael is comedy

and i said several times i dont fault him for when he played...and that he deserves the hall of fame

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Vince Lombardi might be an awful coach in today's game.  Hell, look at Joe Gibbs so far in the 21st century.

[ice grillin you]

that might be true...but he also might have adapted to todays nfl...he seemed like a smart guy...i dont think the coaches were dumber in the 60's than they are now...the playing field would have been just as level imo

but tommy mcdonald would be going against far superior competition now than when he played...and hed still be 5'8/5'9 and slower than most corners...tommy mcdonald in todays nfl is probably tim dwight

[Zanshin]

Because Tim Dwight was slow?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Because Tim Dwight was slow?

Ha!

He also competed in track events; in 1999, he was Big Ten Champion in the 100 meter dash, and he also was part of the 1999 Big Ten Champion 4 x 400 meter relay, the 1999 Big Ten Champion 4 x 100 meter relay, and the 1998 Big Ten Champion 4 x 100 meter relay.

Of course, that was in the "slow" Big Ten.

[ice grillin you]

who said anything about tim dwight being slow?

yous are reaching dookies

in fact i dont know why you even did it but brigning up tim dwights speed just further proves my point...he was much faster than tommy and still could barely play wr in this league due to being a midget

nicely done but my comparison was that tommy would possibly be a good KR and not much more

[Zanshin]

I don't care about your position one way or the other-- but you're contradicting yourself while trying to make your own point.  McDonald and Dwight shouldn't be compared...they're really not all that similar-- if Dwight wasn't white, you wouldn't even have reached for that.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Why couldn't Tommy McDonald play more like Santana Moss or Steve Smith?

[rjs246]

McDonald ran the 100 in under 10 seconds. But he's slower than most cornerbacks. Der.

[Dillen]

Why couldn't Tommy McDonald play more like Santana Moss or Steve Smith?

Once again, because he's white.