Hey Andy Defenders....

Started by SunMo, January 13, 2007, 11:18:26 PM

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MadMarchHare

Hire Kotite.  Hell, hire Shoulderpad Shawn.  Just get rid of the fat dickhead who's thinks he's smarter than he is.  A -3 yard flair pass to a converted fullback with a replacement hip on 3rd and less than 1 at the goalline?  BRILLIANT!
Anyone but Reid.

MURP

Quote from: King Cole on January 15, 2007, 06:34:22 PM
Rich Hofmann who is a really bright guy is heavily defending Andy Reid for it. Trotter did too on Daily News Live.

Rich Hofmann said that only 1 of 19 were converted in the NFL during the season which was roughly 5% and Garcia hasn't completed anything longer than a 3rd and 11 all season. He also brought up how the Saints didn't score any points in the 4th and the first 3 and out the Saints got was just a few possessions ago.

yeah, how about this stat.  There was 0% chance the Eagles were going to stop the Saints run game when they needed to after the 4th and 15 punt.   

He should have thrown the fargin ball.  This stat cop out is just as sickening as the punt itself. 

Rome

Punting the ball was inexcusable.  There was no way the Eagles were stopping the Saints so they should have gone for it right then and there.  Enough already.

Move on.

Phanatic

That game was totally lost with the holding penalty and lost on the Saints drive right before that. Getting mad over 4th and 15 is akin to playing with yourself. Kind of fun because it drives you to drink and all but still...

I didn't expect them to win. They were in it even though they couldn't stop the Run worth a shtein.

Andy can't call a close game well bit in this case I really don't think it mattered. This game was already over by that point.

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MURP

Quote from: Phanatic on January 15, 2007, 09:22:59 PM
That game was totally lost with the holding penalty and lost on the Saints drive right before that. Getting mad over 4th and 15 is akin to playing with yourself. Kind of fun because it drives you to drink and all but still...

Sounds like you are just trying to put the punt out of your mind so you dont start drinkin. 

Phanatic

Quote from: MURP on January 15, 2007, 11:25:32 PM
Quote from: Phanatic on January 15, 2007, 09:22:59 PM
That game was totally lost with the holding penalty and lost on the Saints drive right before that. Getting mad over 4th and 15 is akin to playing with yourself. Kind of fun because it drives you to drink and all but still...

Sounds like you are just trying to put the punt out of your mind so you dont start drinkin. 

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shorebird

I can't defend him after what I saw and after how this season ended. If your going for in on 4th and 10, I mean, what the farg difference is 5 yards?!?! What was it that made him think he should have punted after going for it the play before?!?!

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Quote from: shorebird on January 16, 2007, 06:46:51 AM
I can't defend him after what I saw and after how this season ended. If your going for in on 4th and 10, I mean, what the farg difference is 5 yards?!?! What was it that made him think he should have punted after going for it the play before?!?!

trent cole prolly told him he would go kick someone in the nads and win the game.
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ice grillin you

maybe hes smarter than we all think and he punted so people wouldnt notice the 3 and 1 call to tapeh and the fact that westbrook the best player on the field got 13 carries in a tight game...because those two things are indefensible yet arent getting near the attention they deserve...especially the westbrook thing

they ignored everything they built the last month and went right back to 60% passing for no apparent reason

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Rome

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 16, 2007, 08:24:58 AM
maybe hes smarter than we all think and he punted so people wouldnt notice the 3 and 1 call to tapeh and the fact that westbrook the best player on the field got 13 carries in a tight game...because those two things are indefensible yet arent getting near the attention they deserve...especially the westbrook thing

they ignored everything they built the last month and went right back to 60% passing for no apparent reason



The Saints had no intention of letting the Eagles run on them.  They keyed against the run from the start.  I would have stuck with it personally but the Eagles were having quite a bit of success throwing the ball so I can't blame them too much.

The third & one and the 4th & 15 punt calls were ridiculous and deserve our scorn.  Passing more than running?  Not so much, especially after Andrews went down.

ice grillin you

The Saints had no intention of letting the Eagles run on them.  They keyed against the run from the start.  I would have stuck with it personally but the Eagles were having quite a bit of success throwing the ball so I can't blame them too much.

the eagles had a 6.2 avg per rush...so for all the saints tried to do they were still very successful...maybe had the eagles committed to the run more in the first three quarters then they would have felt better about running the ball on 3rd and a half yard....even before that tapeh call yeah westbrook was stopped on 2nd down but the two previous runs before that went for like 15 and 10 yards respectively

what the saints were really doing was stuffing up the middle...thier tackles were beating the eagles but they also often had an extra man or two in the box....it was so obvious from the get...yet the eagles refused to run westbrook outside the tackles...i was screaming all game for the toss sweep...if you look back i think he ran outside the tackles four or five times all night and everyone time he did (outside of i believe the first possesion of the game where he got stuffed) he banged out chunks of yards...yet they kept going off guard with him it was maddening

it was almost as if reid and morningwheg werent there for the six game winning streak and simply didnt see any of what made them successful....just baffling
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Quote from: ice grillin you on January 16, 2007, 08:46:36 AM
The Saints had no intention of letting the Eagles run on them.  They keyed against the run from the start.  I would have stuck with it personally but the Eagles were having quite a bit of success throwing the ball so I can't blame them too much.

the eagles had a 6.2 avg per rush...so for all the saints tried to do they were still very successful...maybe had the eagles committed to the run more in the first three quarters then they would have felt better about running the ball on 3rd and a half yard....even before that tapeh call yeah westbrook was stopped on 2nd down but the two previous runs before that went for like 15 and 10 yards respectively

what the saints were really doing was stuffing up the middle...thier tackles were beating the eagles but they also often had an extra man or two in the box....it was so obvious from the get...yet the eagles refused to run westbrook outside the tackles...i was screaming all game for the toss sweep...if you look back i think he ran outside the tackles four or five times all night and everyone time he did (outside of i believe the first possesion of the game where he got stuffed) he banged out chunks of yards...yet they kept going off guard with him it was maddening

it was almost as if reid and morningwheg werent there for the six game winning streak and simply didnt see any of what made them successful....just baffling


IG, I agree with most of your points, but to point at a 6.2 average - take away that 62 yard break-out by Westbrook, and what does the average fall to?

Yes, he could have broken another, but other than that, the Saints did hold the Eagles' running game (what there was of it, at least) at bay.

ice grillin you

take away that 62 yard break-out by Westbrook, and what does the average fall to?

fine ill play that game....which means i guess im allowed to take away the bomb to stallworth...which makes the passing bad as well...and in the case of neither working i want the ball in westbrooks hands over garcia's...

plus as i said westbrook was running with much success to the outside when they called it...but somehow the coaches couldnt see what was going on from sideline even tho a mook like me saw from a bar that the saints were clogging the middle of the field and taking the ball to the edges was the way to go
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous