Eagles - NFC East Champs

[shorebird]

also, he's accumulated many of his wins against a terrible division and substandard conference for many years.

Wait 'till next year, the Cowboys, taterskins, and Giants will all be Superbowl contenders.

[Wingspan]

also, he's accumulated many of his wins against a terrible division and substandard conference for many years.

thats pretty much it...like i said the other day his record vs winning teams is atrocious...and its sick how many times hes been urinated on by an opposing coach in a big game

You can't say that without defining what you mean. A winning team the season before? A winning team when they played? A winning team by the end of the season?

And what exactly is a big game? Both Dallas games, and both Giants game can be considered big games, can't they? and each of the 12 playoff games can also be considered a big game? Or are you going by the short term memory big game? Meaning, hey this is a big game, until they lose the next big game, then the 1st big game was actually small.

Blanket statements hold no water when you don't define what you are talking about.

[rjs246]

Stop defending Andy Reid. Jesus, he's awful on game day and there's no two ways about it.

[ice grillin you]

A winning team by the end of the season?

teams that finished above .500 for a season..the only thing that matters...a true representation of how good they were

[SunMo]

what good coach wouldnt?

a good coach would rack up wins and titles.  meanwhile, AR has racked up wins and lumped up when the competition got real.

[Phanatic]

A great coach would rack up wins and titles.

Andy is a good coach who gives us a chance every year. That's more then we're used to as Eagles fans though it seems to just make the let down a fall a little further.

If Andy is not our best chance to win a super bowl.... who the farg is?

[PhillyPhreak54]

Oh look! Another Andy Reid debate! What's next, a McNabb is/isn't a choker discussion?

End yourselves. All of you.

[Wingspan]

A winning team by the end of the season?

teams that finished above .500 for a season..the only thing that matters...a true representation of how good they were

2000 11-5/1-1
Wins vs +.500 = Saints 10-6, Steelers 9-7, Tampa 10-6*
Wins vs .500 = taterskins 8-8
Losses vs .500 = taterskins 8-8
Losses vs +.500 = Giants x3 12-4, Green Bay 9-7, Titans 13-3

2001 11-5/2-1
Wins vs +.500 = Seattle 9-7, Tampa Bay 9-7, Tampa Bay, 9-7*, Chicago 13-3*
Wins vs .500 = taterskins 8-8
Losses vs .500 = taterskins 8-8
Losses vs +.500 =Rams 14-2, Rams 14-2*, Oakland 10-6, 49ers 12-4

2002 12-4/1-1
Wins vs +.500 = Tampa 12-4, Giants 10-6, 49ers 10-6, Atlanta 9-6-1*
Wins vs .500 =
Losses vs .500 =
Losses vs +.500 = Titans 11-5, Colts 10-6, Giants 10-6, Tampa 12-4*

2003 12-4/1-1
Wins vs +.500 = Green Bay 10-6, Carolina 11-5, Dallas 10-6, Miami 10-6, Green Bay 10-6*
Wins vs .500 = Saints 8-8
Losses vs .500 =
Losses vs +.500 = Patriots 14-2, Dallas 10-6, Carolina 11-5*

2004 13-3/2-1
Wins vs +.500 = Baltimore 9-7, Green Bay 10-6, Atlanta 11-5*
Wins vs .500 = Vikings 8-8, Vikings 8-8*
Losses vs .500 = Rams 8-8, Bengals 8-8 (last 2 throw away games)
Losses vs +.500 = Steelers 15-1

2005 6-10
Wins vs +.500 = Kansas City 10-6, San Diego 9-7
Wins vs .500 =
Losses vs .500 = Atlanta 8-8
Losses vs +.500 = Dallas 9-7, Dallas 9-7, Broncos 9-7, Washington 10-6, Washington10-6, NYG 11-5, NYG 11-5, Seattle 13-3

2006 10-6
Wins vs +.500 = Dallas 9-7, Dallas
Wins vs .500 = Giants 8-8, Green Bay 8-8, Panthers
Losses vs .500 = Giants 8-8, Jacksonville, Titans
Losses vs +.500 = Saints 10-6, Colts 12-4

23-27 in games with teams that finished over .500 in the current season, is hardly atrocious.
8-8 vs teams that finished .500

which makes Reids record vs teams with a .500 or better record an overall 31-35, again, hardly atrocious.

his overall record (minus 1999, including playoffs though) is 82-42

meaning he has lost only 7 games to sub .500 teams in 7 seasons.  (a 51-7 overall record to losing teams)

fact

[SunMo]

31-35 isn't atrocious? especially when you have one of the best teams in the league?

it's not good, that's for sure.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Reid baffles me anymore.  The only things that have been proven this season are that Reid did a good job signing a capable backup QB as opposed to 2005 and that breaking up the Reid/McNabb slobberfest was absolutely a great thing for the team as a whole.

[Phanatic]

Do that study on a few other coaches and see how that + .500 number matches up I think.

[Wingspan]

31-35 isn't atrocious? especially when you have one of the best teams in the league?

it's not good, that's for sure.

what coach has a great record vs teams that are .500 or better.

it's all well and good to parrot the same lines over and over again, I would just like to see them backup with with some substance once in a while. oh, and if you remove last year (which i did not), he's 29-26.

[Phanatic]

Reid baffles me anymore.  The only things that have been proven this season are that Reid did a good job signing a capable backup QB as opposed to 2005 and that breaking up the Reid/McNabb slobberfest was absolutely a great thing for the team as a whole.

Because it forced him to come up with an alternative strategy for the offense with McNabb out. A player like McNabb can actually be bad for a team because they get caught up in letting him do it all. Reid's definitly wrong for falling into that but at least he changed like he should when he had too. Or was that Marty's doing?

[PhillyPhanInDC]

IGY

[The BIGSTUD]

I think Andy Reid has a better record against winning teams than most coaches in this league. Someone looked up the numbers on it before, but I know for a fact he has a better win % against winning teams than Gruden and they did a bunch of other good coaches too.