Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

Started by PoopyfaceMcGee, December 11, 2006, 01:30:30 PM

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Hawk

I have no doubt that he's dead.  I just don't see the the purpose in not releasing the photo.  And some speech about enraging Muslims and spiking a football doesn't really do it for me, like it apparently does for a lot of you.

rjs246

I have said repeatedly that I don't care either way. As long as the President gave it thought and took the recommendations of the people who understand the situation best I could care less what they do with them. I just have yet to be presented with a single reason that releasing them would be a benefit to the country or prove anything further (DH's point about the family's of 9/11 victims, not withstanding).

THawk, for years I've read about DNA matches with Osama. It definitely sounds like they have samples but I have no idea how. Maybe family members? No clue.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Hawk

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/wpix-family-unhappy-about-obama-visit,0,4037272.story

More families wanting to see the photo.  Also, someone on the Whitehouse PR/Communications Staff need to be fired for addressing a personal e-mail, "Dear 9/11 Family Member"

To your point, what is the argument against releasing it?  Like I said, enflaming Muslims extremists isn't really a legitimate argument?  Photos have been released throughout history of disposed dictators, I really don't see why Osama is any different especially when Gates stated it would be released a day before.

rjs246

I think the arguments against were already laid out in the quote Dio posted and I re-posted. It's unseemly and unnecessary and would debase our image to the world even if it has zero impact on the actual radicals. I'm all for a private viewing for the families of OBL's victims, and like I said if they released the pictures I wouldn't really care, but I fully understand the explanation that has been presented.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Hawk

How would it debase our image any more than releasing 2000 additional photos of prisoner abuse??? Like I said, the administration can't argue for full transparency than refuse to release Osama's photo.

rjs246

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There is a difference between coming clean about an embarrassing segment of our country's intelligence history and flaunting OBL's head like the Lombardi.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

General_Failure

I just assume they cracked his skull like an egg, and there isn't much to take a picture of. It might satisfy the people of Sleepy Hollow, I suppose.

The man. The myth. The legend.

Hawk

[http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BIN_LADEN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-05-05-09-23-57

Only one guy in the compound was armed...

Whatever, better to execute him than deal with all the nonsense surrounding a trial, which would make him into a bigger martyr.

ice grillin you

hawk why do you keep throwing out the word transparency....what information is being hidden here?...unless the picture was the only evidence of obamas death then there is nothing to be transparent about

as for victims families...if they want to see it i am sure that it will be made available to them

as far as i can tell the only reason you have for releasing it is because you wanna see a cool dead picture of a guy you hate


Quote from: Tomahawk on May 05, 2011, 12:55:07 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on May 05, 2011, 12:30:06 PM
Why is a photo more transparent than DNA evidence, confirmation from US Troops who carried out the assault and his wife identifying him?

People are looking for nonsense non-issues to argue about. Who farging cares if a picture gets released? The dude is dead. farg.

I don't think the photos should be released and I'm sure Osama (sp?) is dead, but how can DNA be used as proof? Did they already have his DNA on file?

he has lots of family members it can be compared too
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Eagaholic

Quote from: rjs246 on May 05, 2011, 01:04:23 PM
I just have yet to be presented with a single reason that releasing them would be a benefit to the country or prove anything further

I think one point is that looking at the pics, coupled with the US success in eventually getting their man, would give some potential Al Qaida recruits pause. It's one thing to consider being a 'martyr' but it's another when you actually see what your head would eventually look like.

ice grillin you

Quote from: Eagaholic on May 05, 2011, 04:26:24 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on May 05, 2011, 01:04:23 PM
I just have yet to be presented with a single reason that releasing them would be a benefit to the country or prove anything further

I think one point is that looking at the pics, coupled with the US success in eventually getting their man, would give some potential Al Qaida recruits pause. It's one thing to consider being a 'martyr' but it's another when you actually see what your head would eventually look like.


they tried this in american inner cities in the 70's by putting dead corpses with blown off heads on billboards saying "are you next?"

it didnt work
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Hawk

Quote from: ice grillin you on May 05, 2011, 03:20:37 PM
hawk why do you keep throwing out the word transparency....what information is being hidden here?...unless the picture was the only evidence of obamas death then there is nothing to be transparent about

as for victims families...if they want to see it i am sure that it will be made available to them

as far as i can tell the only reason you have for releasing it is because you wanna see a cool dead picture of a guy you hate


Quote from: Tomahawk on May 05, 2011, 12:55:07 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on May 05, 2011, 12:30:06 PM
Why is a photo more transparent than DNA evidence, confirmation from US Troops who carried out the assault and his wife identifying him?

People are looking for nonsense non-issues to argue about. Who farging cares if a picture gets released? The dude is dead. farg.

I don't think the photos should be released and I'm sure Osama (sp?) is dead, but how can DNA be used as proof? Did they already have his DNA on file?

he has lots of family members it can be compared too

Why did this administration help push to end the 18 year ban on the media using pictures of flag draped coffins of US soldiers?

If I have to see those coffins, I'd like to see dead Osama.  I've already seen his dead son and dead couriers.  Let's see him.

General_Failure

That is the stupidest argument I've heard yet. Well done.

The man. The myth. The legend.

ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SD

Quote from: ice grillin you on May 05, 2011, 03:20:37 PM
hawk why do you keep throwing out the word transparency....what information is being hidden here?...unless the picture was the only evidence of obamas death then there is nothing to be transparent about

Fair and Balanced