Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[MadMarchHare]

You know, it IS possible to want to vote for McCain or Obama, and not hate the other candidate or the people who like them.  Really, it is.

It would probably help if the candidates went first, though.

[ice grillin you]

i dont hate mccain hes just bernie and andrew mcarthy is the republican party...in a lot of ways i feel bad for him

ive come around to start hating palin the more ive learned about her

[Phanatic]

Clinton's fiscal 'results' would make him the only true fiscal conservative president we've ever had. Whether he meant it or not...

I'll allow my tax $$ to be used for zombie hookers in the oval office if someone just does the job.

Can I consider this an endorsement for my candidacy?

You had me at shot guns for everyone!!

[Father Demon]

i dont hate mccain hes just bernie and andrew mcarthy is the republican party...in a lot of ways i feel bad for him

ive come around to start hating palin the more ive learned about her

THE HELL YOU SAY!!

I Heart Palin.

[ATV]

ive come around to start hating palin the more ive learned about her

Ditto. I've never disliked McCain. His choice of what amounts to nothing more than an attractive cheerleader for Vice President is just another reminder that he's willing to do anything to become President, though.

[Father Demon]

My Kingdom for an IGNORE feature. 

C'mon GF.. you know you never want to read another FF post, and this would make it easy.  DO IT!!

[MURP]

Barack Obama on Community Organizing

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Wait, so you're saying Barack thinks community organizing is an important activity that is an excellent entry point in politics and teaches a future leader to serve, rally, and... well... organize?

Amazing.

[ice grillin you]

or its just a really good thing to do...but its hard to see things like that over the pile of money youre trying to stack

[PhillyGirl]

I also don't hate McCain. The McCain of 2000 was a hell of a lot better than the McCain of 2008 who is a shell of himself. A sell out.

Palin, on the other hand, I despise. I think she's evil. What she wants to do to women's rights (equal pay, right to choose (in the case of rape/incest)) for starters. Teaching creationism in the schools, cutting assistance for special needs kids...all of it. Every single thing about her sickens me.

[Cerevant]

You know you have been dissed when you are dissed about your investigative rigor by the National Enquirer:

"The National Enquirer's coverage of a vicious war within Sarah Palin's extended family includes several newsworthy revelations, including the resulting incredible charge of an affair plus details of family strife when the Governor's daughter revealed her pregnancy. Following our John Edwards' exclusives, our political reporting has obviously proven to be more detail-oriented than the McCain campaign's vetting process. Despite the McCain camp's attempts to control press coverage they find unfavorable, The Enquirer will continue to pursue news on both sides of the political spectrum."

[SD_Eagle5]

Palin, on the other hand, I despise. I think she's evil. What she wants to do to women's rights (equal pay, right to choose (in the case of rape/incest)) for starters. Teaching creationism in the schools,

Has it been established that she wants to teach creationism in schools? I know that was floated out there when she was selected but I haven't seen anything on it since.
Same question as it pertains to partial birth abortion and Obama, is he for it? I've seen reports to the contrary but am not 100% sure of his stance.

Regardless, just because a president wants one thing it doesn't make it an automatic that it's going to happen. I doubt either of those issues make it past Congress.

[Wingspan]

Regardless, just because a president wants one thing it doesn't make it an automatic that it's going to happen. I doubt either of those issues make it past Congress.

Exactly.

To place your presidential vote on such petty social issues is naive. (When I say petty, I mean that abortion yea or nay has no bearing on the issues the executive office should be dealing with...the war, the spending, the economy..etc...) No president or vice president is going to spearhead an abortion campaign, it's political suicide.

That said...

In 1997, Obama voted against SB 230, which would have turned doctors into felons by banning so-called partial-birth abortion, & against a 2000 bill banning state funding. Although these bills included an exception to save the life of the mother, they didn't include anything about abortions necessary to protect the health of the mother. The legislation defined a fetus as a person, & could have criminalized virtually all abortion.

McCain supports the following statements:
Abortions should be legal only when the pregnancy resulted from incest, rape, or when the life of the woman is endangered.
Prohibit the late-term abortion procedure known as "partial-birth" abortion.
Prohibit public funding of abortions and public funding of organizations that advocate or perform abortions.

those are from ontheissues.org

[PhillyGirl]

I don't put it past Palin to do all she could do overturn Roe v. Wade. Sorry, she is too skeery like that. She could appoint those who WOULD work to overturn it.

And yes, SD, she said it herself:

Republican vice-presidential candidate sarah palin wants creationism taught in science classes.

In a 2006 gubernatorial debate, the soon-to-be governor of Alaska said of evolution and creation education, "Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of education. Healthy debate is so important, and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."

[SD_Eagle5]

McCain supports the following statements:
Abortions should be legal only when the pregnancy resulted from incest, rape, or when the life of the woman is endangered.
Prohibit the late-term abortion procedure known as "partial-birth" abortion.
Prohibit public funding of abortions and public funding of organizations that advocate or perform abortions.

I'm probably going to catch hell for this but I side with McCain on the abortion issue. Will that sway me to vote for him? No, I'm 100% behind Obama. I think the major thing that gets overlooked with abortion is the 'Government' isn't making the decision to terminate a pregnancy, it's the women's choice and the decision should rest squarely on her shoulders. Blaming Dems for abortions would be like blaming pubs for a murder committed by a registered gun.