Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[General_Failure]

Your irony skill has increased by 1.

[Diomedes]

ha

[mpmcgraw]

what about my charisma?

[General_Failure]

Gotta learn that skill first before you can train up.

[Geowhizzer]

1.  Obama is actually more popular than McCain in SW Florida.  That would be trouble for McCain, since this area is generally pretty conservative.

How about the thought that "moneylover Repuplicans" aren't going to pay for gas or tickets to go to a minor league baseball game with the economy the way it is?

Gas?  $1-2 at most (not really a long trip for most in Ft. Myers)
Parking?  $3
Tickets?  $5

Sell bobblehead?  +$10 or 20.  Add another $5 in profit after raping the buyer for shipping.

So, they moneylover Republicans will clear at least $5 profit from this.  And you know how much they love profit. 

[Diomedes]

More than is good for them or any other living thing in the world.

[shorebird]

1.  Obama is actually more popular than McCain in SW Florida.  That would be trouble for McCain, since this area is generally pretty conservative.

How about the thought that "moneylover Repuplicans" aren't going to pay for gas or tickets to go to a minor league baseball game with the economy the way it is?

Gas?  $1-2 at most (not really a long trip for most in Ft. Myers)
Parking?  $3
Tickets?  $5

Sell bobblehead?  +$10 or 20.  Add another $5 in profit after raping the buyer for shipping.

So, they moneylover Republicans will clear at least $5 profit from this.  And you know how much they love profit. 

HA! $3 parking and a $5 ticket!? I thought minor league games cost about as much as a regular game. Beer and everything. Thats a lot cheaper than I ever thought it would be.

[Geowhizzer]

The Florida State League is fairly low in the minor league chain (A).  If you get to AAA like the IronPigs, you're probably looking at $10 tickets.

I used to get to at least 5 games a year, but then I had children.  This was my first game this summer.

[Cerevant]

Arianna Huffington skewers McCain on Foreign Policy.  Each of these has a link in the article for your debating reference.

So every day between now and November 4th voters should be reminded that:

McCain has been among the most ardent supporters of the war in Iraq -- the most disastrous foreign policy decision in American history.

McCain falsely claims that, from the beginning of the war, he called on former Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld to resign. He should have, but he didn't.

McCain thinks it's "not too important" when American forces come home from Iraq.

McCain has repeatedly claimed that Iran was training members of al-Qaeda in Iraq, showing a fundamental misunderstanding of the key players in the war. He doesn't understand the difference between Shiites and Sunnis, and even after being corrected he still doesn't get it.

McCain falsely claimed that the surge was what led to the Anbar Awakening, even though the Sunni revolt against al-Qaeda in the province began months before Bush even announced his plan to send more troops to Iraq.

McCain falsely claimed at the end of May that American troops in Iraq were down to "pre-surge levels" (brandished as proof that the surge was "succeeding") -- even though two-thirds of the additional surge troops were still in Iraq. And, when called on his mistake, he refused to acknowledge that he was wrong.

McCain falsely claimed that the war in Iraq was "the first major conflict since 9/11" -- either forgetting about the war in Afghanistan or deeming it not major enough. This is not all that surprising, since McCain's policies on Afghanistan -- the real central front in the war on terror -- have been all over the map. Indeed, McCain first attacked Obama's policy on Afghanistan, then adopted it for himself.

McCain has a long history of paying lip service to supporting America's troops but voting against their interests. His handling of the new GI bill was the latest example of his hypocrisy: he consistently and vocally worked to defeat it, then, once it passed, tried to take credit for it.

Need more proof of why McCain is not "ready to lead"? Do you want a president who thinks there is an "Iraq/Pakistan border"? Who believes Darfur is in Somalia? And that Czechoslovakia is still a country?

[ice grillin you]

all this stuff has been widely known
in many cases for quite some time
and mccain is still right in the thick of it

half the country doesnt care
half the country is terrified of barry
the race is what it is

if reading the rantings of left wing schills calling out mccain
makes you feel better
i completely understand
but you dont need to post all of them here

[Cerevant]

I mostly liked it because it put all the arguments with supporting evidence in one place.  Since you eschew arguments with evidence for unsupported declarations of absolute certainty, I can see why you wouldn't understand.

BTW, some interesting commentary on strategy at 538 today:

It's Colorado and Iowa, along with New Mexico, that form Obama's firewall. If Obama holds the Kerry states but wins those three, he doesn't need to win Ohio, Florida, or any of the higher degree-of-difficulty states. And so far, Obama's lead in these states has been very consistent. In 16 Iowa polls conducted since Super Tuesday, Obama has led all 16. In 11 New Mexico polls over the time span, he has led 9, been tied in one, and trailed in the other. And in 14 polls of Colorado, he has led 11 times, trailed twice, and been tied once.

It shouldn't be overlooked that Obama won the primaries not by out-campaigning Hillary, but by working the rules to his advantage.  By taking a different path from the conventional wisdom, he surprised his opponent with his tactics.  By the time she knew what was going on, she was mathematically out of it.

Obviously, the general election works very differently, but I have to believe that Obama has something similar up his sleeve.

[ice grillin you]

White House DJ Battle

On the eve of the Democratic and Republican conventions, Blender polled Barack Obama and John McCain for their top 10 songs. then we enlisted trusted sages Randy Newman and Girl Talk to analyze their picks.

By Jon Coplon, Illustration
Blender July 30 2008

BARACK OBAMA
1. Ready or Not Fugees
2. What's Going On Marvin Gaye
3. I'm On Fire Bruce Spingsteen
4. Gimme Shelter Rolling Stones
5. Sinnerman Nina Simone
6. Touch the Sky Kanye West
7. You'd Be So Easy to Love Frank Sinatra
8. Think Aretha Franklin
9. City of Blinding Lights U2
10. Yes We Can  will.i.am


JOHN McCAIN
1. Dancing Queen ABBA
2. Blue Bayou Roy Orbison
3. Take a Chance On Me ABBA
4. If We MakeIt Through December Merle Haggard
5. As Time Goes By Dooley Wilson
6. Good Vibrations The Beach Boys
7. What A Wonderful World Louis Armstrong
8. I've Got You Under My Skin Frank Sinatra
9. Sweet Caroline Neil Diamond
10. Smoke Gets In Your Eyes The Platters


Do these guys have time for music?

GIRL TALK: Candidates all seem like robots and machines. It's funny to think about them listening to these songs gearing up for a debate.

ABBA?

RANDY NEWMAN: I find them irresistible. Listening to "Dancing Queen" alone too many times, though, would be suspicious.

GT: I mixed ABBA in on a previous album. McCain should check it out.

Better Sinatra song?

GT: McCain went with the more obvious pick, but if you wanna be a big dog, you should go with the biggest hit.

Why'd they both pick Frankie Blue Eyes?

RN: It says a lot about the long ride Sinatra got out of being phenomenal for two years in the '40s.

Weirdest pick?

GT:  I couldn't tell if it was cool or creepy for Obama to have "Yes We Can." Maybe he's in love with himself and wants to hear his speeches over and over as collaged by will.i.am.

Any snubs?

RN: The Beatles! Also, Streisand's not on there; that's more of a McCain pick.

McCain: Hip? Or hip replacement? 

GT:  It's easy to knock McCain for being old, but I love meeting old people who know about music.

Who gets your vote based solely on this list? 

GT:  If there's a candidate with Fugees' "Ready or Not" on his list, I have to vote for him.

RN: McCain has a really likeable list. Then again, Hitler liked some good music, you know?

[Cerevant]

Wahhhh....

The Clintons hate the caucus system, and they want to see it die.

First they finished third in Iowa. Then they were out-organized by Barack Obama's campaign in the caucuses after Super Tuesday. Finally, they lost the showdown at the rules committee over how to reinstate delegates from the banned Michigan and Florida primaries.

According to one well-placed source, President Clinton himself is still raw over reports of caucus tampering in Iowa that he believes could have tilted the race in Barack Obama's favor, and has mentioned that possibility several times in conversation. A separate source who is also close to Clinton says the idea that people were "bused in" from Illinois to caucus is still a concern, as well. (The Iowa Democratic Party is not required by law to release its caucus rolls, and has not done so.)

In part, this fits with the pattern of retrospective analysis and persistent "what-if" thinking on the part of some Clinton officials, such as when communications director Howard Wolfson remarked on Fox News that John Edwards cost Sen. Clinton the nomination -- a claim that was later partially debunked.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

My dad is absolutely convinced that one, if not both, of the two major party nominees are going to get ousted at their respective conventions.  It's too bad he's not into gambling, because I'll bet the Vegas odds for "neither Obama nor McCain" are pretty staggering.

[Phanatic]

Just read somewhere that McCain says most Americans support Georgia in their bid to fend of Russia's invasion. Speaking of war for oil. Georgia incidentally supplies China with a good chunk of their oil and has asked China for help against the Ruskies. Watch out WWIII.