Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[phillymic2000]

not getting much head, I think

chuggie, a little help here please..the bush lover is uptight

Uptight, nah, frustrated with putting up with the nonsense that Clinton was attacked and crucified for lying to me, and everyone else yeah a little.

Bush lover LOL. for the 100th time class I voted for him twice, Gore = moron. Kerry = dipshtein. Me after Bush's two terms =    The farger had it all a republican congress and the support of the US people after 9/11/01. But no farger had to farg it up, spend money like a whore and mis-manage a war that has our troops playing car 54 in Iraq.

I will not vote for Obama at this point. Look the dude is a product of Chicago Politics, working on the southside for 3 years showed me things i thought I'd never see, only heard of. He didn't change anything in Chicago, what makes you think he will change things in D.C.?

McCain scares me also, you said it yourself Dio, he is as big gov as they come.

I'm sick of some of the blame being shifted away from the dem led congress since 06. You said it a while back Dio, that  congress can't do anything about the oil costs(or something along those lines). I call bullshtein. There actions and policies of drilling (farg Anwar, blah blah blah it would take 10 years to get anything out of it. Well the dems veto'd it over 10 yrs ago so we will never know.) I'm talking about off shore & the rockies. The Dem's promised changes, and a difference when they took over power and they have been for shtein, worse approval rating then bush. Everyone sucks, and no one is doing there job. Sooooooooooooo Barr, nadar, anyone else available. or will we all just stick to our party lines and bash the other side. Yeah for retards!!!!!!!!!!

Cognac doesn't make you as cranky as Gin. Remember that next time you get all salty and feel like posting, Big Guy.

[ice grillin you]

I'm not voting for him. I'm presenting him as a reasonable alternative to the Republican option. And as FF pointed out, the more people vote for him the less people will vote for McCain (probably). Either way, I agree with your problems with Barr and still think that he has something reasonable to offer to the debate. I've changed my mind on things before and don't fault others for changing their minds... unless they change their minds from something I agree with to something I disagree with. In that case I reserve the right to hate anyone and everyone on a whim.

i definitely dont have problems with people changing views on certain issues but this guy has completely flipped on numerous issues and with suspect timing...mostly hes a bad guy tho and thats why i couldnt vote for him...mccain for example has flipped like a mad man but i dont hate him like i do barr...barr is evil

Again, I agree with your POLITICAL assessment of Barr. He has flipped recently on many issues and his former life as a republican included some repugnant actions. But while he has flipped on issues recently he has done it all in a consistent break from the Republican party and made his problems with the party very public. I actually have respect for that.

Your PERSONAL assessment of him is impossible to take seriously because you're basing it on politically motivated actions from about a decade ago. And again you're talking to someone who knows him a lot better than you do (which is to say, "at all"), so try to keep it in your pants.

youre clearly in the bag for him and im not trying to change your mind but the guy was a terrible man long after the clinton fiasco...and trust me i know much about mr barr...hes actually one of my fathers favorite people to hate (maybe second to tom delay) and hes basically obsessed with him...follows his every move... its fascinating dinner talk you should come over sometime

[phillymic2000]

So Barr and Nadar are the only other options. We are farged.

[rjs246]

I'm not voting for him. I'm presenting him as a reasonable alternative to the Republican option. And as FF pointed out, the more people vote for him the less people will vote for McCain (probably). Either way, I agree with your problems with Barr and still think that he has something reasonable to offer to the debate. I've changed my mind on things before and don't fault others for changing their minds... unless they change their minds from something I agree with to something I disagree with. In that case I reserve the right to hate anyone and everyone on a whim.

i definitely dont have problems with people changing views on certain issues but this guy has completely flipped on numerous issues and with suspect timing...mostly hes a bad guy tho and thats why i couldnt vote for him...mccain for example has flipped like a mad man but i dont hate him like i do barr...barr is evil

Again, I agree with your POLITICAL assessment of Barr. He has flipped recently on many issues and his former life as a republican included some repugnant actions. But while he has flipped on issues recently he has done it all in a consistent break from the Republican party and made his problems with the party very public. I actually have respect for that.

Your PERSONAL assessment of him is impossible to take seriously because you're basing it on politically motivated actions from about a decade ago. And again you're talking to someone who knows him a lot better than you do (which is to say, "at all"), so try to keep it in your pants.

youre clearly in the bag for him and im not trying to change your mind but the guy was a terrible man long after the clinton fiasco...and trust me i know much about mr barr...hes actually one of my fathers favorite people to hate (maybe second to tom delay) and hes basically obsessed with him...follows his every move... its fascinating dinner talk you should come over sometime

I'm touched to be invited. Just name a time and place and I'll be there.

[Diomedes]

will there be alcohol? 

invite me too!!

[reese125]

I'm not voting for him. I'm presenting him as a reasonable alternative to the Republican option. And as FF pointed out, the more people vote for him the less people will vote for McCain (probably). Either way, I agree with your problems with Barr and still think that he has something reasonable to offer to the debate. I've changed my mind on things before and don't fault others for changing their minds... unless they change their minds from something I agree with to something I disagree with. In that case I reserve the right to hate anyone and everyone on a whim.

i definitely dont have problems with people changing views on certain issues but this guy has completely flipped on numerous issues and with suspect timing...mostly hes a bad guy tho and thats why i couldnt vote for him...mccain for example has flipped like a mad man but i dont hate him like i do barr...barr is evil

Again, I agree with your POLITICAL assessment of Barr. He has flipped recently on many issues and his former life as a republican included some repugnant actions. But while he has flipped on issues recently he has done it all in a consistent break from the Republican party and made his problems with the party very public. I actually have respect for that.

Your PERSONAL assessment of him is impossible to take seriously because you're basing it on politically motivated actions from about a decade ago. And again you're talking to someone who knows him a lot better than you do (which is to say, "at all"), so try to keep it in your pants.

youre clearly in the bag for him and im not trying to change your mind but the guy was a terrible man long after the clinton fiasco...and trust me i know much about mr barr...hes actually one of my fathers favorite people to hate (maybe second to tom delay) and hes basically obsessed with him...follows his every move... its fascinating dinner talk you should come over sometime

I'm touched to be invited. Just name a time and place and I'll be there.

awesome first date

[ATV]

under my former congressman fat ass Denny Hastert.

You must live, or have lived, just to the south of me. I'm in Algonquin (IL).

Maybe we should date, too.

[phillymic2000]

Batavia for 5 yrs. it's good to be out of the Chicago western suburbs and living in the sticks. I did like having almost every store thinkable on Randall rd. but the traffic 

[Phanatic]

So somewhere in this mess someone mentioned that Gore and Kerry are idiots. While I agree on Kerry I think Gore would have (at the time) made a pretty descent president. He's a charecture of himself now and not electable most likely but times change and so do people. I remember when 9/11 happened people were saying "can you imagine if Gore was president". Man I wish I could imagine that now. I don't get why that would have been a negative really. He certainly wouldn't have looked like a deer in the headlights and increased the size of the government to its largest like Bush did in response.

Bush is actually more of a fiscal liberal the Clinton or Gore. His only claim to conservatism is Christianity. In fact I remember Clinton cleaning out the oval office making an example of less more efficient government in his first term. He had a balanced budget to go along with it by the end. He had a booming economy which helped certainly and he made his share of mistakes like any president. Overall after 8 years he didn't farg things up aside from a hummer and some sort of cigar vadge incident. I don't care about that either. In fact if that makes you do a good job running the country Mr. class A personality then have at it! Interns for everyone!! Someone order Bush a hooker!

[ATV]

Randall Road is horrible. When I moved out here just seven years ago it was all farmland. Now it's your typical outmoded suburban build-out - 4 lanes with grease pits to the side, big box behind, and an ocean of plastic houses beyond. We hope to move before the shtein really hits the fan. We may have waited too long already. Small walkable towns are the future.

I digress.

The U.S. cannot afford (certainly not now) to be world's police.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Yeah, the problem is that I hate big government.  Hate. Big. Government.

The government sucks at everything it does, no matter which side of the aisle is in charge.

what country do you live in?...our government is amazing...does it waste of course but if you look at the size of our country and its budget it does a pretty phenominal job

There are probably people that can speak more objectively to this than someone who draws his livelihood from the U.S. government, no?

[ice grillin you]

huh?....what does that have to do with anything


if you dont think the us government is a pretty damn good machine (that of course can be improved) then like i said i honestly dont know where you been living your whole life


but OMFG an operation with a multi trillion dollar budget has areas of waste and corruption...i guess all businesses suck too since some have shady ceo's and linda in accounting is diverting money to her own shopping accounts



anyone else find it quite ironic that big taterskin fan atv lives in algonquin IL?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

if you dont think the us government is a pretty damn good machine (that of course can be improved) then like i said i honestly dont know where you been living your whole life


but OMFG an operation with a multi trillion dollar budget has areas of waste and corruption...i guess all businesses suck too since some have shady ceo's and linda in accounting is diverting money to her own shopping accounts

You make an excellent point.  Why is it that the same people that rail on big business are all about big government?  There are a lot of similarities.

anyone else find it quite ironic that big taterskin fan atv lives in algonquin IL?

I don't think it's ironic as much as it is odd or confusing.  But, then again, he says he's not a skins fan anymore, remember?  I guess he's all about the Bears.

[PhillyGirl]

Fox being Fox....



Offensive doesn't even begin to describe that.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Actually, "offensive" describes it quite well, with no further need for qualification.