Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

You made so many false statements there that it's tough to point out all of them.

The most important thing you're obviously not getting is that the DNC was very clear up-front with Florida and Michigan officials, and they chose to continue on with their early primaries despite the absolute fact that the primaries wouldn't count.

The problem here is that the states spent their money on useless primaries and now are whining to the national party to get funding to hold contests that actually count.  Basically, their bluff was called, but now they want their chips back.

Still, it was smooth of you to back off your comment that counting the results as is would be more 'democratic' than  not counting them.  Nice work there.

[ice grillin you]

an election even a false one is more democratic than no election at all...fact

the 2000 election here is better than what cuba has now

[Rome]

The DNC laid out the rules in September, 2007.  Those rules said if you hold your primaries before we say they're supposed to be held, then those results will not count and your delegates will not be seated at the convention.

Florida and Michigan thumbed their noses at the DNC, and as a result, the DNC should not, under any circumstances, amend their decision six months after having made them.

Allowing a re-vote simply because the race is so close would be a direct assault on the integrity of the primary process.  It really is just that simple.  It comes down to whether the Democratic Party stands on principle or not.   

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

an election even a false one is more democratic than no election at all...fact

Florida and Michigan officials agree, obviously, because they went ahead and held the fake elections instead of following the rules set by the national party.

[Cerevant]

an election even a false one is more democratic than no election at all...fact

The illusion of democracy (representative or not) under an oligarchy is better than a dictatorship?  I disagree.

Allowing a re-vote simply because the race is so close would be a direct assault on the integrity of the primary process.  It really is just that simple.  It comes down to whether the Democratic Party stands on principle or not.   

Sorry, the primary process does not have any integrity to begin with.  The only way the primaries could have any electoral credibility is if they were all held on the same day, and none of the results were reported until the last polls closed.  As it stands now, you have the results of early primaries influencing the outcome of later primaries.  It is all completely bogus.

[Phanatic]

Technically the DNC and GOP don't have to even include the people in their candidate selection process. They could just pick the candidate and let us vote on them in the general election.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

The DNC's going to end up doing that this year anyway, since the superdelegates will cast the deciding votes at the convention.

[Cerevant]

Technically the DNC and GOP don't have to even include the people in their candidate selection process. They could just pick the candidate and let us vote on them in the general election.

Exactly.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Lack of money is not Obama's problem.

Looks like I was right.  Dude raised $55 million in February.

[ice grillin you]

[Cerevant]

Lack of money is not Obama's problem.

Looks like I was right.  Dude raised $55 million in February.

Well, $'s are almost as important as votes.

1) Money gets votes by buying advertising and funding campaign travel.
2) Money influences the DNC and Supers by showing that he can fund the general election

Hillary raised a couple mil in the last couple of days, but her campaign is still in financial trouble.  It will be interesting to see how Obama spends his money in the next few weeks.

[ice grillin you]

hillary raised 35 mil in feb and obama 55 mil....obama set an all time record and has the advantage but hillary has more than she needs and is certainly not in trouble

[Phanatic]

I just can't believe how much these fargers are spending on a monthly basis. Where does the money go? 35 Million in a month? No wonder politicians can't balance a budget. They don't have any concept after an election.

[Stallworth Supporter]

There should be no primary held in Michigan or Florida.  Split the damn delegate 50/50 and seat them at the convention.  They don't deserve to hold a primary because they broke the rules.  Farg em!

[Cerevant]

Hillary ended January $12.6 M in the hole.  That was after burning through over $100M last year.

It is much easier to make a case that Obama has more than enough money.  That said, in a campaign, there are 3 things you can do to help a candidate:
1) Vote for them
2) Volunteer for them
3) Give them money