Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

Started by PoopyfaceMcGee, December 11, 2006, 01:30:30 PM

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PoopyfaceMcGee


Phanatic

I listened to part of the debate on satelite radio and I agree with your assessment pretty much. I really thought Thompson would look and sound better then he has, but he's coming across like an actor playing a part to me. Romney's a scum bag. Guiliani's Blah. Old man McCain really is the best of that bunch.
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MDS

I'm just waiting for the first murder involving a Ron Paul supporter.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Phanatic on January 11, 2008, 10:56:32 AM
Old man McCain really is the best of that bunch.

I'm starting to lean that way too, and I don't feel okay about it.

PhillyPhanInDC

Just saw this linked on Drudge:

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Iran dominates Republican presidential debate in conservative South Carolina

Tim Reid of The Times, in Washington

The wide-open and unpredictable Republican presidential race moved to religiously conservative South Carolina last night with a debate dominated by Iran and Ronald Reagan.

The five candidates still in the running, holding a debate in a state whose primary on Saturday January 19 could determine the nomination, argued who best embodied the legacy of Ronald Reagan and talked belligerently about Tehran.

John McCain, boosted by his comeback victory in New Hampshire on Wednesday, and Mitt Romney, severely damaged after losing the first two nominating contests, also went after each other ahead of Tuesday's primary in Michigan, a showdown that could kill off either campaign.

Mr McCain, who emerged from the debate unscathed, received a further boost with new polls showing him leading in both Michigan and South Carolina.

South Carolina has a Republican electorate heavy with conservatives and evangelicals and is also home to many military bases. It is shaping up once again to be a critical contest in the party's nomination battle. Since it gained its first-in-the South status in 1980, no Republican has received the party nomination without winning the state.

A victory there for Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor and onetime Baptist minister who rode to victory in Iowa on the support of evangelicals, would confirm his status as a serious national contender. He is staking much on victory in the Palmetto State, where his Southern, evangelical credentials are finding fertile ground.

Mr Huckabee has faced grave doubts about his foreign policy experience, his greatest vulnerability, but got one of the biggest cheers of the night when asked about the incident last week when Iranian boats swarmed US navy ships in the Strait of Hormuz.

Asked whether the American commanders on the scene were right in not attacking the Iranian boats, Mr Huckabee said he backed their decisions, before warning Iran: "Be prepared, first, to put your sights on the American vessel. And then be prepared that the next thing you see will be the gates of Hell, because that is exactly what you will see after that."

Fred Thompson, the former Tennessee senator and Law & Order star who is banking all on victory in South Carolina to revive his campaign, said of the Iranian boat crews: "I think one more step and they would have been introduced to those virgins that they're looking forward to seeing." The crowd cheered.

Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor, said: "I think an incident like this reminds us that we shouldn't be lulled into some false sense of confidence about Iran."

Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor seeking to become America's first Mormon president, said: "I believe it was a very serious act."

All the candidates sought to invoke Mr Reagan, a conservative hero, to boost their message. Mr Thompson accused Mr Huckabee of betraying the former president's principles of low taxes and hawkish national security policies when Arkansas governor. "This is a battle for the heart and soul of the Republican party and its future," he said.

Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor who is basing much of his campaign on his performance after the September 11 attacks, and the issue of terrorism, said: "We are different times, but Ronald Reagan's principles apply now." He said America must face down its enemies.

The next showdown in the Republican race is in Michigan on Tuesday, a state vital to Mr McCain and Mr Romney. Mr Romney, whose father was governor there, must win it to keep his campaign alive. Mr McCain believes he can finish Mr Romney off if he wins it. But he also badly needs victory to keep his extraordinary comeback going. His New Hampshire victory was achieved after his campaign fell apart in the summer.

Mr Romney accused Mr McCain of giving up on people who had lost their jobs in the economically depressed Michigan, after the Arizona senator said at rallies on Thursday that some lost jobs will never return.

Mr McCain, who at times can barely conceal his contempt for Mr Romney, said he was simply telling voters the truth.

Mr Giuliani is staking his candidacy instead on victory in Florida in January 29, which he hopes will propel him to big wins on February 5, "Super Tuesday", when more than 20 states vote.

Wow. What a couple of complete and total asses. Unbelievable that Thompson would say something like that.
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.""  R.I.P George.

MDS

that pretty much sums up the republican party right there.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Jews don't believe in hell, right?

Eagles_Legendz

I like Romney the best out of the field of Repubs, but as has been discussed before, that isn't exactly an endorsing compliment.  However, I think for his sake, he'd be better to stop changing his campaign rhetoric every two weeks ("I am the best canidate to defeat Hillary", "I am an agent of change", "I have the best chance to take down Barack").  I think he is far more intelligent than the likes of Thompson and Huckabee, but I wish he would just stick to his own guns.

Butchers Bill

Quote from: MDS on January 11, 2008, 02:59:26 PM
that pretty much sums up the republican party right there.

And the embarrassment that its become. 

With the slop out there right now, I have changed my mind about Hillary.  If she wins the nomination, she actually has a chance to win.
I believe I've passed the age of consciousness and righteous rage
I found that just surviving was a noble fight.
I once believed in causes too,
I had my pointless point of view,
And life went on no matter who was wrong or right.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on January 11, 2008, 03:03:39 PM
I like Romney the best out of the field of Repubs ... but I wish he would just stick to his own guns.

That's Romney's biggest drawback.  He doesn't have guns that stick.  He changes his opinions and strategy more than his hair dye.  It's just the way he is, and that's why he sucks.

Oh, and the whole Mormon thing...

MDS

Quote from: FastFreddie on January 11, 2008, 03:02:12 PM
Jews don't believe in hell, right?

lol. yea, jews believe in a magical place your spirit gets sent when you die.

jews really dont count for enough to effect an election, but many are giant liberals anyway. the problem is some are so cooked up about israel that they'll chicken out and vote republican at the last second because they trust the war happy crowd more with the middle east situation than democrats.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Cerevant

Same.  I'm at Obama's height, but just left of the Y axis.  Hillary is less than half in my circle.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Eagles_Legendz

Quote from: FastFreddie on January 11, 2008, 03:09:52 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on January 11, 2008, 03:03:39 PM
I like Romney the best out of the field of Repubs ... but I wish he would just stick to his own guns.

That's Romney's biggest drawback.  He doesn't have guns that stick.  He changes his opinions and strategy more than his hair dye.  It's just the way he is, and that's why he sucks.

Oh, and the whole Mormon thing...

I think he does have clear stances on a lot of the issues, though his voting record has been spotty.  It's just that he seems to promote the flavor of the day over his own convictions, which bothers me.  I guess the best way to put it for me is that I'd be the least worried if he became our President out of all the possible Republicans.

Eagles_Legendz

Closest to Ron Paul, furthest from F. Thompson.  RP--kill me now please.

I'm economically conservative and socially liberal.  I'm at Richardson's height and just shy of McCain to the right.