Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

Started by PoopyfaceMcGee, December 11, 2006, 01:30:30 PM

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Munson

In all seriousness, a lot of middle and working poor people will see more money in the first couple years of the bill. Nothing life changing though...for me it'll probably be somewhere between $250-$750....But they made the tax cuts for middle class people temporary and the corporate cuts permanent so they could pass senate rules. So In like 2025 the cuts disappear.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

SD

"Wages will go up and this will create jobs"...trickle down economics at its finest. More money hording, exactly what this country needs. You voted for Trump? You're an icehole, plain and simple.

MDS

will anything from this monstrosity to be felt immediately? i know middle class wont get hit until 8 years. by then this will be torn to shreds.

im hoping that all the trump voters making 25k a year at the walmart or the ones waiting for the plant to open again are immediately farged over on this.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

SD

I'm predicting riots, protests, big business and government hacking. Maybe I'm watching too much Mr. Robot but that scenario seems possible.

ice grillin you

the process is being so overblown....i dont give a farg if they all snuck into a space shuttle and did it on the moon....what does it matter they had the votes

the contents of it are what matters and if you thought reagan was the devil you should see this thing...it has to be the worst piece of legislation since law 503
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: MDS on December 02, 2017, 09:18:48 AM
will anything from this monstrosity to be felt immediately? i know middle class wont get hit until 8 years. by then this will be torn to shreds.

im hoping that all the trump voters making 25k a year at the walmart or the ones waiting for the plant to open again are immediately farged over on this.

Not sure on the immediacy of it. But I agree...I want the bastiches who voted for him who don't have two gotdamn nickels to rub together to feel it. They wanted to talk about "economic anxiety"? Well take a bite of this.

Student loan interest deductions are gone too. As are many other deductions for the normal folk. But if you have a private plane you're good.

All 52 Republicans voted no for giving time to read the bill. Corker was the only one to vote against the tax bill.

Also dems received the list of provisions from lobbyists not from repubs

And Orrin Hatch added that cash and gift cards are no longer allowed to be distributed to employees as achievement awards.

Rome

Americans are about to get farged hard and they deserve it.  They were warned what would happen if they kept voting for Republican scum and now they're about to find out. 

Munson

The people that are going to be hit immediately with negative consequences will be the rich-but-not-ultra-super-rich types---think your people with children buying homes in expensive parts of NY, Cali, MD, VA, NJ, etc---and graduate school students who, assuming this provision makes it to the final bill, will have their stipends taxed as income now. So kids who are doing research for their PhDs, which is where a lot of our breakthroughs in a ton of industries come from, will no longer be able to actually afford being PhD students. There's going to be a serious brain drain there.

The rest of us won't feel much of a difference immediately and most of us will get a few more bucks in our pockets...but unless oyu're making a shteinton of money, it's not going to be a huge noticeable amount. It'll be somewhere in the $500 range for me I believe, give or take a few hundred depending on the final version of the bill. For someone making $20K a year, for example, they're gonna get to keep like $200 more a year. Not really doing anything significant for them.

Of course, if the bad policy ends up triggering another recession or depression, we'll all feel the negative effects way quicker.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Diomedes

I'm not following closely...what provision is made for bringing home profits currently held overseas?  A one time low rate to bring it back, or something?
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Rome

Who cares.  Make as much money as you can.  farg everyone over.  Don't give a penny to charities. farg the little guy.  Abuse women.  Rape the environment.  Gays have no rights.  Minorities belong in chains.  Deport all immigrants.  That's what America voted for and that's what we're getting. 

Tomahawk

If you're making 20k a year, an extra $200/yr is probably significant.

Universities could change the graduate program handouts from stipends to scholarships which aren't subject to the tax.

Don't get me wrong, this legislation is a yuge POS. What I really don't get is how the party that claims to be fiscally conservative could have passed something that will blow up the deficit

Eagaholic

Quote from: Rome on December 02, 2017, 02:59:25 PM
Who cares.  Make as much money as you can.  farg everyone over.  Don't give a penny to charities. farg the little guy.  Abuse women.  Rape the environment.  Gays have no rights.  Minorities belong in chains.  Deport all immigrants.  That's what America voted for and that's what we're getting. 
Well what about Joel Embiid?

Munson

Quote from: Tomahawk on December 02, 2017, 03:02:16 PM
If you're making 20k a year, an extra $200/yr is probably significant.

Universities could change the graduate program handouts from stipends to scholarships which aren't subject to the tax.

Don't get me wrong, this legislation is a yuge POS. What I really don't get is how the party that claims to be fiscally conservative could have passed something that will blow up the deficit

As someone who was making 20K a year as recently as a handful of years ago, an extra $200 a year does pretty much nothing at all. Not when average rents are as high as they are.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

ice grillin you

stop talking about taxes idiots....and focus on the end of the aca....pregnant women....poor children.....poor old people...theres cuts in here way bigger than your farging two tanks of gas you might lose this year
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

MDS

Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.