Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[Tomahawk]

actually costa just said trump sounded humbled not angry or upset at all and didnt blame ryan....just going to move on to tax reform

He may have sounded it (doubtful), but there's no way Trump was humbled. If he was, it was for no more than a minute.

[MDS]

the costa jawn

https://t.co/Mve7xEgTo1

wouldnt call it humbled, would call it bitter and butt hurt

[PhillyPhreak54]

Bob Menedez:

"Hey Republicans, don't worry, that burn is covered under the Affordable Care Act"

[ice grillin you]

what strong and powerful leader we have...

How did Ryan persuade Trump to adopt his bill? The truth is, it doesn't appear to have been very hard.

On Wednesday, the New Yorker's Ryan Lizza published a series of messages from a House Freedom Caucus source laying out the state of play on the American Health Care Act. "Don't source to me," the person wrote, "but R's astonish[ed] how in over his head Trump is. He seems to neither get the politics nor the policy of this."

Recently, I read every public statement Trump made on health care since the unveiling of the AHCA. It was striking how obviously thin Trump's knowledge of the issue was. His standard riff veered from complaints about Obamacare to complaints about how Democrats wouldn't work with him to vague promises about how great everything would be after the House plan passed. To this day, Trump has never made a substantive case for why this bill would make people's lives better.

Politico reports that Trump doesn't even like talking about health care — and his staffers have started, amazingly, to see that as a good thing:

Several people with knowledge of the discussions said having Trump on the golf course wasn't a bad thing for his team, who could wade more into the nitty-gritty and have "real talk" with the conservatives. They fear that when he meets with legislators or interest groups that he'll promise them too much — or change the terms under discussion altogether. "It's easier to negotiate sometimes without Trump," one adviser said.
This is the problem with not knowing or caring much about the details of policy — it's easy to get spun by people who do know and care, and it's easy to get trapped in processes that people are building for their benefit rather than yours. And that seems to be what happened to Trump. For instance, the New York Times reports that Trump barely paid attention when he agreed to put health reform first:

He approved the agenda putting health care first late last year, almost in passing, in meetings with Mr. Ryan, Vice President Mike Pence and Reince Priebus, the White House chief of staff.
Pence and Priebus persuaded Trump to make Rep. Tom Price his health and human services secretary. Pence, Priebus, and Price are all Ryanists, not Trumpists, and so when Ryan emerged with a health care plan that reflected their views, they told Trump it was a great deal and he should work for its passage.

[ice grillin you]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/politics/jared-kushner-aspen-ski-trip-obamacare/index.html

[Sgt PSN]

Bob Menedez:

"Hey Republicans, don't worry, that burn is covered under the Affordable Care Act"

[Diomedes]

Bob Menendez is in deep shtein of his own making...hardly the guy I want crowing over the Republicans' embarrassing failure.

[Rome]

I don't care if he's fist farging baby ducks for the fun of it.  That was a righteous smackdown. 

[Rome]

And the article by Costa is deeply disturbing.  Trump seems like he literally has no grasp on reality.   I mean NONE.  He's like a child who has never heard the word no before.   He's actually saying he hopes Obamacare fails simply because he would win some minor petty fight.  That's more important to him than the health and wellbeing of tens of millions of people.  Absolutely incredible. 

[ice grillin you]

That's more important to him than the health and well being of tens of millions of people.

he lied to hundreds of millions of people for a year and half about what he would do for them and hes been a selfish pos for his entire life....he aint changing now

[Sgt PSN]

I have a hard time fathoming that a 70 year old billionaire who has never spent a day of his life as anything less than a millionaire isn't in touch with reality. 

[SD]

Anyone who voted for this imbecile expecting him to make anything better gets what's coming to them. How anyone can watch him during the debates and think he had any clue is staggering. Here he is a year ago debating Rubio over healthcare. Rubio continuously mocks him because he has no idea what the farg he's talking about.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDdb4CemRTA

[Rome]

Rubio supported this bill. 

[Sgt PSN]

That was basically World Star for white people. 

[ice grillin you]

Rubio supported this bill.

he ducked questions about it as every republican senator i know of did with the exception of rand paul

rubio is a spineless waste of a politician but hes relatively moderate....i highly doubt he would have voted for it