Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[Cerevant]

Palin is the only candidate in history to have speeches written for her, and has her campaign stops planned out.

Way to miss the farging point - the campaign will not allow her to interact with the press.  She will only perform as scripted.  That's very different from having a speech writer.

[ice grillin you]

John Stewart Annihilates Sarah Palins Media Surrogates

saw this the other night murp...just classic stewart...self destruction ya headed for self destruction...

i wouldnt expect anyone to watch it at its scheduled time every night but if you dont at least tivo daily show and rewatch every episode youre doing yourself and your country a great diservice

[SunMo]

i watched that last night and just cracked up

[ATV]

UPDATE: Ann and Nancy Wilson of Heart said Thursday night that Universal Music Publishing and Sony BMG have sent a cease and desist notice to the McCain-Palin campaign over their use of 'Barracuda.'

"We have asked the Republican campaign publicly not to use our music. We
hope our wishes will be honored," the group said in a statement that said they "condemn" the use of the song at the Republican convention.

I think I rememeber the same thing happening at their last convention. Does anybody else remember that? If so what artist was it?

[rjs246]

What a bunch of drama queens. "Wah! We CONDEMN the use of a completely non-political song we wrote a million years ago. People definitely still care about what we think."

[Father Demon]

So, who here remembers this image on the big screen behind McCain while he was talking?



That is a picture of Walter Reed Middle School, from North Hollywood, California.

The school, seen more clearly:


Apparently they meant for him to be standing in front of a backdrop of the famous Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington DC, but someone, uh, got their google image search messed up.



So, for the most important speech in a distinguished politician's career, his campaign and support staff managed to screw things up in a Spinal Tappish 2-foot stonehenge monument kind of way.

[Wingspan]

It could have been worse, he could have been standing infront of a 300 foot version of Andrew Walter Reid

[ATV]

     John McCain, an old hero in a dishonored political party, made his appeal to the nation last night. In contrast to the vicious bombast all around him this week in Minneapolis, it was a pretty low-key, diffuse appeal. Strangest of all was his attempt to dissociate himself from the very party he was pitching his appeal to. The net effect was to lay all the blame for the mismanagement of US affairs on George Bush's doorstep, and hope that the voters don't notice that George W. Bush is not the only person running the US government (or that the Republican Party has been a full partner in the enterprise).

     The internal contradictions in McCain's pitch were such that he fell back on the prisoner-of-war narrative as the main reason voters should elect him. It is a powerful narrative of survival, but it was a long time ago in a different campaign called the Vietnam War, and one senses that if he trots it out again, let's say in the upcoming debates, it will start to sound like a sob story.

      Both McCain and his stratagists are trying to make the most of a campaign devoid of ideas or an agenda for action by turning it into campaign about feelings and symbols. By a strange paradox, they have succeeded in feminizing their party. The Democrats started doing that in in 1984 with the snivelly Walter Mondale, but they have now gone in the other direction and re-masculinized. My guess is that the voters will notice, including the female voters -- and the times ahead will seem sufficiently scary by November that the old war horse and his old prisoner story, propped up by his Gal Friday veep, will seem inadequate to the new tasks-at-hand compared to the much more credible and straightforward Obama and Biden. That is, unless this nation is so far gone that it actually decides to commit suicide.

     One hint of that came in McCain's remarks about former Soviet Georgia (birthplace of Joseph Stalin) -- one of the few parts of his speech where he departed from a fuzz and gauze rhetoric of mere feelings. If there's a case of US imperial over-reach these days, Georgia is exhibit-number-one. It is clearly not in our sphere of influence and provoking Russia over it by meddling there is nothing less than an invitation to commence hostilities. Perhaps that is what war horses do. It seems extremely unwise.

     Mostly I'm relieved that the conventions are over. How mortifying to see our countrymen parading around in ridiculous hats, like eight-year-olds, and what is increasingly becoming a Nuremburg-style display of jingo-patriotic symbolism -- fifty-foot high televised flags and such. I shudder to think of what people in other nations think of us when they see us act this way.

    Anyway, I think the mainstream media has missed so far the real story-line developing in this election -- the US economy is cratering, and the banking-finance sector is blowing up. Moving into October, the Republican Party will come to be seen as the party that wrecked America. I doubt the old war horse can overcome that.

From http://www.kunstler.com/index.html

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Both of them are wrong on income taxes for the wealthy.  It's laughable how much McCain wants to cut their taxes, but equally so that Obama is looking towards Socialist levels of wealth redistribution.

The primary thing for me is all the other taxes Obama is looking to increase:
Capital Gains (you ever buy and sell stock or mutual funds?)
Estate Tax (let's reward the families of people that die in debt over those that die with savings)
Corporate Taxes and Loopholes (who do you really think ends up paying those taxes?)

The burden of a tax is completely independent of its legal incidence.  Most of you, unfortunately, probably don't know what that means.

[ATV]

but equally so that Obama is looking towards Socialist levels of wealth redistribution.

Be sure you throw the scare word out there.

Speaking of scare....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM3oww9Vk-c

Same shtein as 2004. I wonder how many douches will eventually be claiming (if McCain were to somehow win the election) that they would have voted for the Democrat if only it weren't that Democrat.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

but equally so that Obama is looking towards Socialist levels of wealth redistribution.

Be sure you throw the scare word out there.

I am so surprised that you ignored the obvious logic of my post in favor of a weak attempt at accusing me of using a "scare" word.

Obama fans seem to ignore the fact that lower income and middle class Americans will absolutely see an increased tax burden, due to his economic plan outside of income taxes themselves.  It sounds so convenient that all you have to do is heavily tax wealthy individuals and corporations to solve all of America's ills, but it also completely defies an elementary understanding of economics.

[ice grillin you]

i dont look at any one issue when looking at the economy its just stupid because so many factors go into it

what i do know is that when a republican is in the white house the rich get richer and the poor get poorer...the less fortunate suffer more than ever and wall street has a party....ronald reagan being the all time worst example of this

[MDS]

reagen also danced on the graves of aids victims but whatever money is more important

[SD_Eagle5]

i dont look at any one issue when looking at the economy its just stupid because so many factors go into it

what i do know is that when a republican is in the white house the rich get richer and the poor get poorer...the less fortunate suffer more than ever and wall street has a party....ronald reagan being the all time worst example of this

But Republicans had to work harder for their money, just ask Johnny suburb whose wealthy family paid for his way through college...and while we're at it we'll ignore Johnny poverty because it was his fault he was born that way.

[Wingspan]

i dont look at any one issue when looking at the economy its just stupid because so many factors go into it

what i do know is that when a republican is in the white house the rich get richer and the poor get poorer...the less fortunate suffer more than ever and wall street has a party....ronald reagan being the all time worst example of this

that's funny because it's not true nor has it actually gone that way for the last 20 years.