Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

Started by PoopyfaceMcGee, December 11, 2006, 01:30:30 PM

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Father Demon

QuotePLEASE DON'T EVER SAY YOU WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN!  PLEASE!  I need my husband to come home!  I have two autistic children that are ages 3 and 4, and I can't do this alone.

I BEG YOU!  DON'T vote for McCain, EVER!

I'm not crazy about BO either, but I would NEVER vote McCain into office because that will be the worst thing to ever happen to THOUSANDS of americans families who need their daddies, mommies and their husbands and wives.

PLEASE HELP BRING MY HUSBAND HOME, PLEASE!
I know you all are trying, we all are trying like crazy to get her elected, but don't vote for McCain, please.

This crap stirs me up. 

The press has made people with moderate IQs or lower believe that McCain in office means the war will never end, and we will continue to fight over there "for 100 years", but if we all vote in Obama, the war will be over and everyone gets to come home.  The millions of people that actually buy this line of bullshtein is all the proof we need that America are dumb.




(that was deliberate)
The drawback to marital longevity is your wife always knows when you're really interested in her and when you're just trying to bury it.

Father Demon

If half of what these guys say is true about fundraising stuff, McCain is totally screwed in this upcoming election.

Full story

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GOP fears Obama's money machine

Now it's the McCain campaign's turn to try to match Barack Obama's fundraising might.

With Hillary Clinton's campaign coming to an end this weekend, Barack Obama's rise as the Democratic nominee brings serious bad news to a new group: John McCain's finance team.

A review of campaign finance data offers not one ounce of good news and barely any hope for the McCain campaign's ability to compete with Obama's fundraising prowess.

To make matters worse, Obama's campaign, which raised $272 million through April for the primary, now is reaching out to Clinton's fundraisers, who raised another $200 million through April, in an effort to unite forces and bury the historically deep-pocketed Republicans.

Take a look at some of the numbers:

• If each of Obama's donors gave him a modest $250, he'd have $375 million to spend during the two-month general election sprint. That's $186 million a month, $47 million a week.

• During the same September to Nov. 4 period, McCain will have about $85 million to spend since he has decided to take taxpayer money to help finance his campaign activities.

• The Republican National Committee, which is charged with closing the gap between McCain and Obama, has $40 million in cash. Obama raised almost as much — $31 million — from just his small donors in the month of February. His total for the month, $57 million, exceeded the RNC's cash balance.
• Obama has more than 1.5 million donors; McCain has a few hundred thousand. If just a million of Obama's donors sent him the maximum donation, $2,300, he could raise $2.3 billion.

OK, that's not going to happen. But campaign finance experts and Democratic fundraisers say a conservative estimate of Obama's general election fundraising potential hovers around or above $300 million.

Such a massive financial advantage will allow Obama to compete in more states than McCain and force his rival to defend states that should rightfully be Republican wins.

Obama's use of such tactics has already been on display in the primary.

Pennsylvania was a must-win for Clinton and, given its large population of working-class Democrats and women, was a long shot for Obama.

Still, he spent $10 million advertising in the Keystone State. Why? He forced Clinton to spend all her money and much of her time there to ensure she pocketed a 10-point win.
See Also

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Meanwhile, Obama moved ahead of her to the next set of equally critical primary states. He pulled ahead of her in North Carolina, squeezed the gap in Indiana and essentially ended any hope of a then-bankrupt Clinton overtaking him in the delegate race.

In the general election, Obama could afford to set up large operations in Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, New Mexico and a host of other states — maybe even McCain's own Arizona..

That would force McCain to pick the midsize-state battles he could afford while also trying to hold off a free-spending Obama in essential big states such as Ohio, Missouri and Florida.

"McCain has to make every dollar count in the general election, and Obama will have money to burn," said Evan Tracey, co-founder of Campaign Media Analysis Group.

The financial gap between the two presumed nominees was also on display during the primaries. Obama spent $75 million on television advertising, and McCain spent $11 million, according to Tracey.

This quote is only about half of the full story.
The drawback to marital longevity is your wife always knows when you're really interested in her and when you're just trying to bury it.

ATV

This is just getting sad....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMDJP4VxY4&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/5/10929/36955/794/530090

I don't dislike the guy. I never have. It's a shame because he could have been Kerry's VP. The last four years would have been a whole lot better. Poor McCain.

ATV


PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Father Demon on June 05, 2008, 10:38:05 PM
This crap stirs me up. 

The press has made people with moderate IQs or lower believe that McCain in office means the war will never end, and we will continue to fight over there "for 100 years", but if we all vote in Obama, the war will be over and everyone gets to come home.  The millions of people that actually buy this line of bullshtein is all the proof we need that America are dumb.

The primaries proved that Republicans do not have the monopoly on stupid or on racist, that's for sure.

Diomedes

Quote from: ATV on June 06, 2008, 12:23:40 AM"Bottled hot water to dehydrated babies"

right??  wtf was that about?
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Cerevant

Quote from: Father Demon on June 05, 2008, 10:44:09 PM
If half of what these guys say is true about fundraising stuff, McCain is totally screwed in this upcoming election.

Keep in mind that about half of Obama's donors gave $100 or less, so the ridiculous projections at the end of the article are pure fiction.  Still, a force to be reckoned with.  I read an rticle on the 50 state strategy that points out that one of the reasons to take this tactic is to force McCain to spread his money thin over more states.

Forget about Ohio and Florida.  This election is about Colorado.  And New Mexico.  And Missouri.  And Iowa.  And Virginia.  And Indiana.  Obama might lose a couple of those, but probably not all.  There is a zero percent chance that this electoral map looks anything like 2000 or 2004.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Diomedes

If half of Obama's donors gave less than 100, then surely half of them could kick in another 20 or so now that he's won the nomination...it's not a group of donors I'd call tapped out.

I haven't donated anything yet, but said I would if he gets the nomination.  I can hardly afford it but a donation of $25 bucks is, frankly, worth more, and would be more effective than my vote, so I'll do it. 
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Geowhizzer


Diomedes

Obama doesn't really have to keep hammering the idea that McCain is running for Bush's third term, because McCain is making the argument himself:

QuoteJune 6, 2008
Adviser Says McCain Backs Bush Wiretaps


WASHINGTON — A top adviser to Senator John McCain says Mr. McCain believes that President Bush's program of wiretapping without warrants was lawful, a position that appears to bring him into closer alignment with the sweeping theories of executive authority pushed by the Bush administration legal team.

In a letter posted online by National Review this week, the adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, said Mr. McCain believed that the Constitution gave Mr. Bush the power to authorize the National Security Agency to monitor Americans' international phone calls and e-mail without warrants, despite a 1978 federal statute that required court oversight of surveillance.

Mr. McCain believes that "neither the administration nor the telecoms need apologize for actions that most people, except for the A.C.L.U. and trial lawyers, understand were constitutional and appropriate in the wake of the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001," Mr. Holtz-Eakin wrote.

And if Mr. McCain is elected president, Mr. Holtz-Eakin added, he would do everything he could to prevent terrorist attacks, "including asking the telecoms for appropriate assistance to collect intelligence against foreign threats to the United States as authorized by Article II of the Constitution."

Although a spokesman for Mr. McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, denied that the senator's views on surveillance and executive power had shifted, legal specialists said the letter contrasted with statements Mr. McCain previously made about the limits of presidential power.

that's from today's NYTimes

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

rjs246

Motherfarger. There's nothing that gets me angrier than that particular topic. Except for French food. That shtein farging sucks.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Cerevant

Not saying they are tapped out, but that article talks about: what if every one of Obama's donors gave the max [$2300], he would have over $2B!

He has a monster fundraising machine, but he isn't going to raise $2B
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

PoopyfaceMcGee


Diomedes

I would enjoy Edwards the AG.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

reese125

Quote from: rjs246 on June 06, 2008, 08:04:25 AM
Motherfarger. There's nothing that gets me angrier than that particular topic. Except for French food. That shtein farging sucks.

RJ, I know this discussion has come up in the past, but I still cant understand why you get so bent out of shape about "international" survelliance of phone calls?

Lets take for a second that gov't cant and wont go any further than tapping international phone calls (which makes total sense by the way)...why so salty? Are you affiliated with the Patel's?