Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

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Munson

#35250
June 22, 2020, 11:03:40 AM
https://twitter.com/jstein_wapo/status/1274870828467990532

Turns out our levels and depths of poverty are not inevitable, and rather just a reflection of our policy choices on a federal level. Who woulda known.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Munson

#35251
June 22, 2020, 11:59:41 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Munson

#35252
June 22, 2020, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

PhillyPhreak54

#35253
June 22, 2020, 04:17:39 PM
Quote from: Munson on June 22, 2020, 11:59:41 AM
https://twitter.com/asharangappa_/status/1275049404500717569

And now it comes out in addition to Cheeto Dick, McEnany, Ronna Romney...Mike Pence and "mother" all have voted by mail.

Geowhizzer

#35254
June 22, 2020, 04:28:42 PM

General_Failure

#35255
June 22, 2020, 05:27:39 PM
Is he doing an anime thing where they yell the name of their attack to make it more powerful?

The man. The myth. The legend.

Munson

#35256
June 23, 2020, 03:53:08 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Munson

#35257
June 23, 2020, 04:05:38 PM
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1275505431679565824


Also from today if you still weren't sure the collusion happened.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Munson

#35258
June 23, 2020, 04:09:37 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

General_Failure

#35259
June 23, 2020, 06:16:46 PM
The latest round of condemnations are really going to sting them this time!

The man. The myth. The legend.

MDS

#35260
June 23, 2020, 08:31:52 PM
bad time to be a white politician running against a black dude in a D primary
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

Diomedes

#35261
June 24, 2020, 08:48:18 AM
A libertarian/conservative leaning friend sent me this OpEd

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/where-do-we-draw-the-line-in-tearing-down-statues/2020/06/23/8d5d19c2-b58d-11ea-aca5-ebb63d27e1ff_story.html


Since I took the trouble to compose a response, I thought I'd offer it here if any of you care.  You don't, I know.  Eat shtein.

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Well, since you asked:

Don't count me among the liberals who would draw the line at Washington.  Honestly, it's fine with me if all statuary to individuals came down. Columbus, Jackson, Washington...fine.  Especially State owned/located statuary.  We're a nation of laws, not men.  I think Washington would agree with me.  (Columbus and Jackson I suspect would not).  No one will forget who they were because their statues are removed.  When they are forgotten, it will be for lack of proper education, or, more likely, from the frailty of human civilization and entropy generally.

"...Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."

McArdle attempts a rhetorical slight of hand, turning Statuary of men into far more:  "If you don't, you will cede issue after issue to the radicals"

To this I answer: Oh, come off it. The slippery slope of tearing down icons doesn't cause anything more than some statues to come down.  The same argument was made when everyone was fighting about whether you can burn the flag or not.  You can, of course.  And it turns out that when you burn the flag, all that really happens is you have a small fire.

From the perspective of native people, or of AA people, and their political sympathizers, all three of the men mentioned above were slavers, or mass murderers, or both.  Sure, they did some other things too, but larger-than-life bronze statuary of a slaver...you could see how that might be unacceptable to the people descended from those slaves, and their supporters, no matter what else he did.

Once upon a time, the people who decide who the heros are had no problem with Washington's slave holding, or Jackson's genocidal campaign against native people, or Columbus' demonic cruelty.   But in our time, it sure seems like the people who decide who the heros are don't see it that way.  This question is no more complicated than the indisputable fact that as times change so do the people and their values.  We are not bound to venerate all those who were once venerated.  Each age puts up its own heros and tears down those who no longer fit the bill.

So the answer to Ms. McArdle's question depends on who "we" are, doesn't it? 

Personally, I draw the line at the "Philly Philly" statue.  I'll spill blood to defend that one.

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I attached a couple photos of the greatest statue on earth to help illustrate my point.  This guy is not a football fan.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Munson

#35262
June 24, 2020, 08:09:52 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

SD

#35263
June 24, 2020, 08:11:22 PM
Bunch of farging children

PhillyPhreak54

#35264
June 25, 2020, 12:32:00 AM
Good measured response, Dio.

Did he counter?
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