Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

Started by PoopyfaceMcGee, December 11, 2006, 01:30:30 PM

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PhillyGirl

Jesus...what is Hillary's camp smoking to put out a release like that?

Obama's camp's responses were farging hilarious...if they were, in fact, from his camp.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

Cerevant

Well, I'd consider NPR a reliable source - it isn't like this is the Daily Kos or Huffington web rags.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

ice grillin you

she has a point about a lot of the states...the states barry is winning now are states he has no chance to win in november...whereas shes winning states that are must haves to win the general...if he gets shelled in pa its gonna look even worse for him in the fall
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyGirl

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 13, 2008, 06:57:17 PM
she has a point

I stopped reading after this. You're ridiculous already with your love for her.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

ice grillin you

the fact that you think it would be impossible for an entire campaign to make a single good point on anything shows who is ridiculous
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyGirl

QuoteFerraro: Obama camp 'did it to hurt Hillary'
Posted: 06:52 PM ET
Ferraro is standing by her original comment.

(CNN) – One day after she stepped down from her role in Hillary Clinton's presidential bid, Geraldine Ferraro said she blames Barack Obama's campaign for the uproar over her recent comments.

In an interview Thursday with CNN affiliate WJAR in Providence, Rhode Island, the onetime vice presidential candidate also said the Obama campaign made a mistake in taking aim at her remarks.

"I do think this was a mistake on part of the Obama campaign," she said. "They didn't have to do this, and they did it to hurt Hillary. I just think that's bad. I think it's bad business, and I think it's bad politics.


"I was accused of being divisive. I think those tactics are divisive," she added. And the amazing thing is its not something I started, its something they did in reaction to this."

Ferraro also implored Obama's campaign to turn "the spigot off the hate mail I am getting."

"I find it very, very upsetting," she said. " I've been called all kinds of names, and the attacks are ageist, they're sexist, they're racist. It's been very, very uncomfortable.

Ferraro resigned her fundraising post with Clinton's campaign on Wednesday, after taking heat for telling a newspaper last week that Barack Obama would likely not be leading in the presidential race if he was her were white.

The Illinois senator's campaign denounced the comments on Tuesday and Obama himself called them "patently absurd." Clinton said she repudiated the remarks, though did not publicly call for Ferraro to resign.

In the interview Thursday, Ferraro suggested she did not regret making the comments, saying she was "talking to the facts," and that the issue of race has been raised several times in the campaign before, including by Obama himself.

"The enthusiasm you get from the black community over this black candidate is wonderful, and I don't think you can deny it," she said. "No more than I remember how people felt when I was running."

Ferraro, who was Walter Mondale's running mate in 1984, was the first woman to appear on a major presidential ticket. She has said she raised about $125,000 for Clinton's campaign.

What in the farg is she talking about?
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

PoopyfaceMcGee

#2676
Game. Over.

QuoteAmong the 313 of 796 superdelegates who are members of Congress or governors, Clinton has commitments from 103 and Obama is backed by 96, according to lists supplied by the campaigns. Fifty-three of Obama's endorsements have come since he won the Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses, compared with 12 who have aligned with Clinton since then.

``That's not glacial, that is a remarkable momentum,'' Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri, a superdelegate and Obama supporter, said in an interview. ``I don't think there is anything that will slow that down.''

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 13, 2008, 06:57:17 PM
she has a point about a lot of the states...the states barry is winning now are states he has no chance to win in november...whereas shes winning states that are must haves to win the general...if he gets shelled in pa its gonna look even worse for him in the fall

Absolutely incorrect.

QuoteThe same holds true in Ohio, which Clinton won, and Pennsylvania, where voter surveys say she is leading in the April 22 primary. Polls show Obama does as well or better than Clinton against McCain in those crucial swing states.

Cerevant

The #1 indicator of who should be the democratic nominee is who McCain is attacking.  If/When McCain starts attacking Hillary, then it is time to worry.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

PoopyfaceMcGee

McCain and Hillary are drinking buddies.

Diomedes

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

ice grillin you

Quote from: FastFreddie on March 14, 2008, 07:47:46 AM
Absolutely incorrect.

QuoteThe same holds true in Ohio, which Clinton won, and Pennsylvania, where voter surveys say she is leading in the April 22 primary. Polls show Obama does as well or better than Clinton against McCain in those crucial swing states.


il go by whats actually happened before i go with some meaningless polls re: the general election that are taken before the primaries have even ended

lets see what happens in pa in april before we start worrying about november....hopefully obama can pull a huge upset and end this thing...if i were him id spend every last dollar i have to try and win in pa...unless he believes he has absolutely no chance...but if you think you can end it you go for it all
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Cerevant

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 14, 2008, 08:36:19 AM
il go by whats actually happened before i go with some meaningless polls re: the general election that are taken before the primaries have even ended

Let's not forget that most people lie when asked if they would vote for the other party if their candidate wins.  With the polls as close as they are (within 5% for both Obama and Clinton vs. McCain) you can probably count on 15+% more for either of them when the real choice comes.

Quotelets see what happens in pa in april before we start worrying about november....hopefully obama can pull a huge upset and end this thing...if i were him id spend every last dollar i have to try and win in pa...unless he believes he has absolutely no chance...but if you think you can end it you go for it all

I agree this should be his strategy.  If he wins PA, it is over.  Hillary will have to drop out.

If Obama loses PA...it will be interesting to see what Howard Dean does.  He's said that if it isn't settled in April, he'll sit down with the candidates and try to negotiate an agreement.  He's probably thinking of talking them into a joint ticket, but I just don't see either of them taking the back seat on this.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Diomedes

I don't think Dean would attempt to swindle them into a joint ticket. 
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

ice grillin you

no farging way hillary takes second fiddle on this thing...shes a cyborg and the nomination is sarah conner


while it will definitely be over if obama wins pa theres no way she will stop there and she will use michigan and florida being back in play as the excuse


however if she wins pa then florida and michigan barry is in trouble
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Cerevant

FWIW, Feb 7, NY Times:

Quote"I think we will have a nominee sometime in the middle of March or April," Mr. Dean said Wednesday on the NY1 cable news channel, "but if we don't, then we're going to have to get the candidates together and make some kind of an arrangement. Because I don't think we can afford to have a brokered convention; that would not be good news for either party."
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.