Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

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Rome

She's a really intelligent and mature kid.   It could all go to hell between now and then but I doubt it.   Best you can do is mix mild discipline with genuine care and concern and not treat them like little morons and hope it all works out.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: phattymatty on May 28, 2013, 12:11:25 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 28, 2013, 12:01:33 PM
Does this mean that you think the minor/adult line should be completely eliminated and that a person is essentially an adult from birth?

of course not but yeah like igy said it can't be so cut and dry. you think labeling a high school student a sex offender for hooking up with another high school student is a good idea?

I see both sides of it. 

Obviously, the initial thought of labeling a high school kid as a sex offender for life because they had consensual sex with a schoolmate sounds ridiculous. 

At the same time though, 18 is 18.  I guarantee you that just like every other teenager, she was looking forward to becoming a legal adult.  Now she's being treated like one and doesn't like it. 

So what do you do?  Do you adjust the legal age of adulthood and push it back to 20 or 21?  Do you leave it at 18 but put some sort of exemption clause in there that excludes 18 yr old high school students from being charged as adults?

I'm all for looking at other options as long as they make sense.   

Sgt PSN

Quote from: Rome on May 28, 2013, 12:35:06 PM
She's a really intelligent and mature kid.   It could all go to hell between now and then but I doubt it.   Best you can do is mix mild discipline with genuine care and concern and not treat them like little morons and hope it all works out.

Pretty much.  My ex had all of these stupid pre-determined ages in place from the day my kids were born in regards to when they can do this or that.  No doing this until this age, no doing that until that age.  She also had a "no dating until 16" policy.  My daughter had her 1st boyfriend at 13.  I thought it was great because my ex was so furious about it and I guess she expected me to be angry as well.  I wasn't.  13 is a good age for your first date is what I told her.  This just enraged her even more, which amused me even more too.  Not to mention that she got so pissed at me that she more or less forgot that she was pissed at my daughter for going out with a boy. 

So yeah, that just goes to show you how much kids really care about what parents have to say.     

Tomahawk

Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 28, 2013, 12:38:44 PM
At the same time though, 18 is 18.  I guarantee you that just like every other teenager, she was looking forward to becoming a legal adult.  Now she's being treated like one and doesn't like it.

Does 15 equal 18? How about 16 and 17? Juveniles are tried as adults because they either exhibited criminal intent or their crimes were determined to be abhorrently heinous. Throwing the book at this girl, or any other "adult" in a similar situation, is a miscarriage of justice.

Sgt PSN

I'm confused. You saying its cool for 18 yr olds to bang 14 yr olds with little consequence?

Tomahawk

I'm saying in this case, and assumedly many like it, charging her with a felony is extreme. Misdemeanors can still dole out jail time as part of the sentence to help ensure she's rehabilitated and poses no future risk to our society.

SD

Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 28, 2013, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: Rome on May 28, 2013, 12:35:06 PM
She's a really intelligent and mature kid.   It could all go to hell between now and then but I doubt it.   Best you can do is mix mild discipline with genuine care and concern and not treat them like little morons and hope it all works out.

Pretty much.  My ex had all of these stupid pre-determined ages in place from the day my kids were born in regards to when they can do this or that.  No doing this until this age, no doing that until that age.  She also had a "no dating until 16" policy.  My daughter had her 1st boyfriend at 13.  I thought it was great because my ex was so furious about it and I guess she expected me to be angry as well.  I wasn't.  13 is a good age for your first date is what I told her.  This just enraged her even more, which amused me even more too.  Not to mention that she got so pissed at me that she more or less forgot that she was pissed at my daughter for going out with a boy. 

So yeah, that just goes to show you how much kids really care about what parents have to say.     

You just hate women


Munson

Or we could just wait til the 14 year old is 15 and then pretend the changing date makes it all okay.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Diomedes

I would never presume to judge this situation without seeing the sex tape first.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Sgt PSN

Quote from: Tomahawk on May 28, 2013, 06:58:14 PM
I'm saying in this case, and assumedly many like it, charging her with a felony is extreme. Misdemeanors can still dole out jail time as part of the sentence to help ensure she's rehabilitated and poses no future risk to our society.

Absolutely. I don't think she's a sexual predator. I don't think she's a felon. I think she's mostly an idiot.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: Diomedes on May 28, 2013, 09:20:22 PM
I would never presume to judge this situation without seeing the sex tape first.

FBI has been alerted. Be polite when they knock on your door. 

Sgt PSN

Quote from: SD on May 28, 2013, 08:49:40 PM
You just hate women

Just 1. I got nothing but love for all them other hos.

Rome


Munson

It's amazing how liberal she can get sometimes when an issue personally effects her.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Rome

Or it's like on a plantation in the 1800s where the slaves got a day off each year to sing and dance and not get beaten & raped.