Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[shorebird]

Bullshtein. You don't just change three decades of what you believe unless you're just a blind follower. It happened in the span of about three weeks. The better part of the black community, and the national organization that claims to represent them. Most all of them hold a firm belief in God and the bible, so I guess that they will tear out the pages that go against homosexuality. It's no different than the far right and the way they passionately hate the left and democracy. African Americans, Gays, and minorities will do anything to get Obama re-elected. Hell, there are people on this board who would vote for him twice if they could, simply for the reason that they think he looks cool drinking beer.

so all the white people whose attitudes changed during emancipation or during the civil rights era were blind followers of who exactly?

or is it only when black people who support and look up to a black president change their minds are labeled as blind followers

Hey asswipe, did you just read over the part were I said it was no different than the way that the far right is?

[ice grillin you]

the far right doesnt evolve so thats a horrible example

[shorebird]

No, it's not.

[rjs246]

Another stellar back and forth, you two.

[shorebird]

What are your thoughts on the subject?

[rjs246]

My thoughts are that consenting adults should be able to love, marry, live with or farg whoever they want and that the government shouldn't be in the business of approving or disapproving of anyone's relationships gay or straight.

I also think that people who base their likes/dislikes/political leanings/decisions of any sort on a book that was written 1900 years ago are farged in the head. I don't begrudge people their superstitions, I've been a poker player athlete and sports fan my whole life so I have plenty of my own superstitions, and faith in a higher power is fine in my book but the harm that organized religion does to rational discourse in this country and around the world is mountainous.

So when an organization bucks a trend of stupidity and does something right and rational in the face of ass-backwards tradition I am all for it. Good for the President and good for the NAACP.

[SunMo]

i'm putting that on your memorial when you die

[rjs246]

Amen, sister.

[SunMo]

hurtful

[shorebird]

My thoughts are that consenting adults should be able to love, marry, live with or farg whoever they want and that the government shouldn't be in the business of approving or disapproving of anyone's relationships gay or straight.

I'm in 100% agreement with this.

I also think that people who base their likes/dislikes/political leanings/decisions of any sort on a book that was written 1900 years ago are farged in the head. I don't begrudge people their superstitions, I've been a poker player athlete and sports fan my whole life so I have plenty of my own superstitions, and faith in a higher power is fine in my book but the harm that organized religion does to rational discourse in this country and around the world is mountainous.

So when an organization bucks a trend of stupidity and does something right and rational in the face of ass-backwards tradition I am all for it. Good for the President and good for the NAACP.

I'm not saying that the decision was wrong. The timing couldn't have been worse. It just screams that positions have changed purely for political reasons, and that the wrong way to go about it. It cheapens an otherwise rational, out of the stone age stance. It doesn't seem genuine. It makes me think that no, they don't actually believe in homosexuality or gay rights, they're just doing an about face because it's what needs to be done at this time. And, of course and with good reason, the right will pounce on it hard and heavy.

[Munson]

It's been fairly obvious for a long time that Obama was in favor of gay marriage and just wouldn't say so.

[SD]

It's been fairly obvious for a long time that Obama was in favor of gay marriage and just wouldn't say so.

Agreed. Why he came out with it now who knows but it doesn't seem like it was a good political move. Maybe he just got fed up with the whole situation.

[rjs246]

His hand was forced because Biden can't stay on message. Ever. Under any circumstances.

Bad timing, but yes, it's been pretty clear for a while (ever since he admitted that his stance was 'evolving' two years ago) that he supports gay marriage.

[Munson]

farg it, if Biden shooting off at the mouth gets stuff done, I'm all for it.


come on Joe, tell us all how pot should be legal.


Also, tonight on Maher, Paul Krugman and Art Laffer will both be on the panel

[SD]

Also, tonight on Maher, Paul Krugman and Art Laffer will both be on the panel

Russell's Jesus